Unlimited "Guns, Fuck Yeah!" Thread

[AFK]

Did you not read ECH's post at all? 

Yes, doesn't change the fact that we need gun control.  And of I had my way, we WOULD go farther than just "assault weapons", but I know my opinion is in a pretty small minority.

I think what you're after is people control.

No it isn't. 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

The other thing about the mental health thing is not just stigma. Some people really think they are fine when they clearly are not. If you have a really inaccurate perception of the world around you them you probably have an inaccurate perception of your own mental state. The doctors are trying to dope you up so that the forces controlling the world can pull the wool over your eyes dont you know.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Did you not read ECH's post at all? 

Yes, doesn't change the fact that we need gun control.  And of I had my way, we WOULD go farther than just "assault weapons", but I know my opinion is in a pretty small minority.

I think what you're after is people control.

No it isn't.

Of course it is.  Your stated positions are always and without exception on the side of controlling people.

[AFK]

And what you and I said about which side you come down on are not mutually exclusive.

You want to force people to be safe, I don't.

I want to keep kids from being gunned down in their goddamned classrooms.  Period.

I want to keep kids from getting their entire lives ruined over a pot bust.  Half a dozen of one, six of another.

Me too, but we're not talking about that are we? 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And what you and I said about which side you come down on are not mutually exclusive.

You want to force people to be safe, I don't.

I want to keep kids from being gunned down in their goddamned classrooms.  Period.

I want to keep kids from getting their entire lives ruined over a pot bust.  Half a dozen of one, six of another.

Me too, but we're not talking about that are we?

Naw.  But I'm seeing a common thread, here.

[LMNO]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

[AFK]

Did you not read ECH's post at all? 

Yes, doesn't change the fact that we need gun control.  And of I had my way, we WOULD go farther than just "assault weapons", but I know my opinion is in a pretty small minority.

I think what you're after is people control.

No it isn't.

Of course it is.  Your stated positions are always and without exception on the side of controlling people.

Banning certain types of weapons doesn't control anyone. 

[AFK]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

Yes, but of course, Newton wasn't accidental, and, was at the hands of a guy who very clearly had that familiarity.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

If you haven't been trained to drive a car, you probably shouldn't be driving one.  If you haven't been trained with a firearm, you probably shouldn't have one.

But here's the thing, LMNO:  Everyone and their Goddamn grandmother seems to know better than the framers of the constitution.  Everyone, on both sides of the aisle, wants to fuck with the rights as set down in the main body & the bill of rights.

Fuck 'em.  If they are really that bothered, they can move to England, where guns are banned and nobody's ever violent.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

Yes, but of course, Newton wasn't accidental, and, was at the hands of a guy who very clearly had that familiarity.

So, it's your position that rights should be repealed based on worst-case scenarios?

Really?  Because we could have a little fun with that concept.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Banning certain types of weapons doesn't control anyone.

Did you keep a straight face while you typed that?

[AFK]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

Yes, but of course, Newton wasn't accidental, and, was at the hands of a guy who very clearly had that familiarity.

So, it's your position that rights should be repealed based on worst-case scenarios?

Really?  Because we could have a little fun with that concept.

Repeal what?  Banning certain types of weapons doesn't repeal a damn thing.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

Yes, but of course, Newton wasn't accidental, and, was at the hands of a guy who very clearly had that familiarity.

So, it's your position that rights should be repealed based on worst-case scenarios?

Really?  Because we could have a little fun with that concept.

Repeal what?  Banning certain types of weapons doesn't repeal a damn thing.

Well, other than the 2nd amendment, which states that "the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed"

IE, to be touched upon in any way.

[AFK]

Banning certain types of weapons doesn't control anyone.

Did you keep a straight face while you typed that?

We ban shit all the time in the name of safety.  Lead in paint, pesticides, BPA, etc., etc.

[AFK]

Ok, TGRR is on to something. FAMILIARITY is key when dealing with machinery. I learned guns when I was 11, with a .22 rifle, shooting at bottles. It was POUNDED into my head that I should only point the gun at things I wanted to shoot and/or kill. There was a CONSTANT message of respect and danger. And this was a .22 for fuck's sake!

Later, around 13 or so, I started up with shotguns. And holy fuck, if you messed up on the range, you were done for the day.

I think if proper gun respect was taught, rather than restriction, there MIGHT be fewer accidental deaths.

I realize I'm vaccilating here, but this is one of those things.

Yes, but of course, Newton wasn't accidental, and, was at the hands of a guy who very clearly had that familiarity.

So, it's your position that rights should be repealed based on worst-case scenarios?

Really?  Because we could have a little fun with that concept.

Repeal what?  Banning certain types of weapons doesn't repeal a damn thing.

Well, other than the 2nd amendment, which states that "the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed"

IE, to be touched upon in any way.

It doesn't, you are still free to bear arms.