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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, April 08, 2013, 05:11:17 PM

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The thing that makes this a shining example is the fact that if the ladies room were full and I urgent enough to use the men's, no one would have tossed me.

Question:  I know trans people don't always dress trans.

What then?

probably safer to go with the gender most assumed/presented on the day for a pee.

I saw some horrible stats for bladder damage in the trans community, because of holding it in for fear of assault. I reckon single lockable unisex bathrooms should be available everywhere. If you don't have to share the space you would lose a lot of the bullshit.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Yeah, I thought it was a pretty awesome explanation, and done really thoughtfully.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Faust

That's a nice image.

Privilege Shaming on tumblr and the like is something that needs to stop.

Sleepless nights at the chateau

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Especially the privilege checklist. I have a particularly hard time explaining, sometimes, that almost everyone has some form of privilege.

For example, even though I'm a poor single mom of color, my parents were educated. That means that through no doing of my own, I grew up with an expectation that I would read a lot, be curious about the world, and speak excellent academic English. This gives me an edge in the job market and academia, over every single poor kid of any race whose parents were uneducated and spoke in dialect.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Faust

exactly, it is all just a scale.

And (if I didn't make it obvious already), I get a big kick out of the phrase Privilege shaming.

brb have to use my new found phrase to go inform tumblr people how they are oppressing me.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

P3nT4gR4m

Here's thought - Privilege shaming is actually the opposite of what's required. Privilege shaming trys to lessen the advantage of the privilege whereas what would be better is elevating the privilege of those with less.

Helping those less fortunate than yourself?

Nah... that can't be right  :lulz:

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Faust on February 27, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
exactly, it is all just a scale.

And (if I didn't make it obvious already), I get a big kick out of the phrase Privilege shaming.

brb have to use my new found phrase to go inform tumblr people how they are oppressing me.

Bring me with you.

I wish to point out that, merely by virtue of being born in America or Europe, we've won the privilege lottery.

Compared to, say, someone from Darfur or Sierra Leone.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 27, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
Here's thought - Privilege shaming is actually the opposite of what's required. Privilege shaming trys to lessen the advantage of the privilege whereas what would be better is elevating the privilege of those with less.

Helping those less fortunate than yourself?

Nah... that can't be right  :lulz:

Missing the point.  The point is to make YOU BASTARDS feel BAD.

At least on Tumblr.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Faust

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 27, 2014, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 27, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
exactly, it is all just a scale.

And (if I didn't make it obvious already), I get a big kick out of the phrase Privilege shaming.

brb have to use my new found phrase to go inform tumblr people how they are oppressing me.

Bring me with you.

I wish to point out that, merely by virtue of being born in America or Europe, we've won the privilege lottery.

Compared to, say, someone from Darfur or Sierra Leone.

After work this evening perhaps, I'll link when I start.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on February 27, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
exactly, it is all just a scale.

And (if I didn't make it obvious already), I get a big kick out of the phrase Privilege shaming.

brb have to use my new found phrase to go inform tumblr people how they are oppressing me.

Oh hell yeah.  :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

One of the things being aware of privileges can help to alleviate is that whole "bootstrap" mentality... the idea that "if I could make it, anyone can, if they just try hard enough".

If we are able to recognize the factors that contributed to our own success, we are less likely to blame others, in general, for not thriving, and more likely to be able to recognize (and maybe even do something about) the factors that prevent others from thriving.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Nigel on February 27, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
One of the things being aware of privileges can help to alleviate is that whole "bootstrap" mentality... the idea that "if I could make it, anyone can, if they just try hard enough".

If we are able to recognize the factors that contributed to our own success, we are less likely to blame others, in general, for not thriving, and more likely to be able to recognize (and maybe even do something about) the factors that prevent others from thriving.

Having a fall is good for that. Anyone who's ever had it sweet then had the rug pulled out then managed to rebuild should be able to appreciate how "easy" it is. Of course, it's not a given. It's talking apes, after all.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark