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Started by LMNO, April 15, 2013, 08:19:14 PM

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Quote from: stelz on April 18, 2013, 04:44:46 AM
I can totally see them spinning a story like that, though. "Damn unbalanced kids are out of control".  :x :x :x

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To sum up:

SCHRODINGER'S SUSPECT.

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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 18, 2013, 05:02:54 AM
To sum up:

SCHRODINGER'S SUSPECT.

One of the downsides of the Internet. We expect all the answers NOW.
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Quote from: Queef Erisson on April 18, 2013, 05:14:47 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 18, 2013, 05:02:54 AM
To sum up:

SCHRODINGER'S SUSPECT.

One of the downsides of the Internet. We expect all the answers NOW.

It's too bad that law enforcement doesn't actually use things like crowd-sourcing to solve crimes like this, instead letting all that effort get sucked into conspiracy theories.
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Quote from: V3X on April 18, 2013, 05:17:43 AM
Quote from: Queef Erisson on April 18, 2013, 05:14:47 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 18, 2013, 05:02:54 AM
To sum up:

SCHRODINGER'S SUSPECT.

One of the downsides of the Internet. We expect all the answers NOW.

It's too bad that law enforcement doesn't actually use things like crowd-sourcing to solve crimes like this, instead letting all that effort get sucked into conspiracy theories.

I imagine that they are. If I recall the BPD and FBI asked for any possible information. They might give some credence, even if it comes from InfoWars. Conspiracy theorists are good at noticing and pattern recognizing. It's just that they usually make the pattern fit the assumption.
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I don't know if this needs its own thread or what. Do whatever.

More things going boom.

http://www.kwtx.com/news/local/headlines/Explosion-Injuries-Reported-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html

QuoteEmergency crews from throughout Central Texas responded just before 8 p.m. Wednesday after the first explosion at the plant in the small town north of Waco.

The explosion was reported at around 7:50 p.m. in a frantic radio call from the scene of the fire at West Fertilizer at 1471 Jerry Mashek Dr. just off Interstate 35.

The fire started in an anhydrous ammonia tank and spread to the building, authorities said.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 18, 2013, 06:22:06 AM
I don't know if this needs its own thread or what. Do whatever.

More things going boom.

http://www.kwtx.com/news/local/headlines/Explosion-Injuries-Reported-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html

QuoteEmergency crews from throughout Central Texas responded just before 8 p.m. Wednesday after the first explosion at the plant in the small town north of Waco.

The explosion was reported at around 7:50 p.m. in a frantic radio call from the scene of the fire at West Fertilizer at 1471 Jerry Mashek Dr. just off Interstate 35.

The fire started in an anhydrous ammonia tank and spread to the building, authorities said.

Industrial accidents are bad and this is bad, but it isn't in the same category as bombing civilians.
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Cain

Fertilizer is notoriously dangerous when not treated with the proper amount of safety and respect.  There is a reason its often used in home made bombs.

But this looks like an industrial accident and nothing more.

Bruno

Maybe. Being just outside of Waco on the day before the anniversary of the Waco siege and the Oklahoma City Bombing makes it seem a little sketchy to me.
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Cain

Anhydrous ammonia forms an explosive compound when in contact with air.  Turns out the factory in question lied about the risk their operation presented to the EPA. 

Quote from: BBCThe Dallas Morning News reported that West Fertilizer had told the Environmental Protection Agency that it presented no risk of fire or explosion.

The newspaper said it had seen documents in which the plant said it stored large amounts of anhydrous ammonia, but the worst scenario envisaged was a release of ammonia gas that would harm no-one.

Chances are that means they skipped on safety requirements as well.

If I see any evidence to indicate sabotage rather than accident, I may change my mind.  But based on the information we have, it looks like a terrible industrial accident.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 18, 2013, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 18, 2013, 06:22:06 AM
I don't know if this needs its own thread or what. Do whatever.

More things going boom.

http://www.kwtx.com/news/local/headlines/Explosion-Injuries-Reported-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html

QuoteEmergency crews from throughout Central Texas responded just before 8 p.m. Wednesday after the first explosion at the plant in the small town north of Waco.

The explosion was reported at around 7:50 p.m. in a frantic radio call from the scene of the fire at West Fertilizer at 1471 Jerry Mashek Dr. just off Interstate 35.

The fire started in an anhydrous ammonia tank and spread to the building, authorities said.

Industrial accidents are bad and this is bad, but it isn't in the same category as bombing civilians.

Somebody messaged me on facebook last night and asked if I was ok. I was wondering what that was about.

Yeah, totally different.
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besides, the Czech Stop is intact, so we can all still get our kolaches.  (that's the primary purpose for West, afaict.)

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Elder Iptuous on April 18, 2013, 02:16:04 PM
besides, the Czech Stop is intact, so we can all still get our kolaches.  (that's the primary purpose for West, afaict.)

But do you have Shiner to go with those?  :lol:
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Cain

So, some pictures of the site pre-bombing have been released on the internet.

If fucking 4chan and Reddit solve this before the FBI do... :argh!:

Junkenstein

Question - Say Anon correctly ID's the guy.

Is that evidence even admissible? Would this not help grounds for a future appeal?

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