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What is so wrong with the women of this* country?

Started by I_Kicked_Kennedy, April 22, 2013, 05:09:51 PM

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Cain

What's wrong with the women of American is that they are harlots, shameless hussies who just won't settle down and act like proper little ladies.

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Whenever I hear this shit I think of men who want to kill their father, and fuck their mothers.
Quote from: Pergamos on April 22, 2013, 09:51:29 PM
The GOP is about having someone to shit on.  If you are a rich white man you can shit on everyone, if you are not, you need someone to shit on.
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There's one thing I remembered women are superior to men at; it was either being a pilot, or a astronaut. Some thing about them having smaller frames with more body fat, and how the G force affects them by default. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

Cain

Seriously though, it's the privilege thing.  Corey Robin, a professor of political science at NYSU, wrote a very good book about how conservatism is essentially about attempting to retain privileges in the private domain which are no longer acceptable in the public domain.  Thus, legality before the law and in voting, but not in the bedroom, or in wages.

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Its hard to talk about conservatism on sociological terms on a big scale of time and geography, but just the word itself that represents is an important signifier: "conservation".

As far as i've seen its about misrepresentation of the past (some stupid nostalgia about a "Golden Age" where everyone was happy), idealizing it, and doing what is possible to recreate it; id also associate it with neo-phobia. And a lot of blow-hard talk about "values".

There's a particular conservative party here that supposedly started as an initiative for better education, and all we got on later stages was an abomination that got us a drug war, recession and a net loss on women's human rights.
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Quote from: Cain on April 22, 2013, 10:38:01 PM
What's wrong with the women of American is that they are harlots, shameless hussies who just won't settle down and act like proper little ladies.

:lulz: Well I know I am, at least.


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Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 24, 2013, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 22, 2013, 10:38:01 PM
What's wrong with the women of American is that they are harlots, shameless hussies who just won't settle down and act like proper little ladies.

:lulz: Well I know I am, at least.


-Nigel, doin' my part to prove the GOP right.

It's a thankless job, but someone's gotta do it.

Without some kind of deplorable nonsense to shock them every so often, their monocles would permanently fuse to their faces.

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Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on April 22, 2013, 05:09:51 PM


Basically, I don't understand it. To look at the basic definition of Conservative viewpoints, there's nothing to indicate they should give a shit about feminism, one way or another.  I get that they don't like Affirmative Action, but outside of that, how does that have any bearing on feminism? Feminism, to me, is the simple understanding that women should have equal rights. Makes sense to me. Even as a man, I don't see how that can have any negative effects on me.



The reason you don't understand the "conservative" viewpoint of Feminism is literally because you...and this is circular...don't have a conservative viewpoint of Feminism. I.e. you (assuming) don't look at right-wing propaganda against the Feminist position.

You define Feminism as being a movement based on being equal. The right uses propaganda to push the idea that Feminism is about being "more equal"...and by presenting quotes by women scrounged from one source or another talking about getting married literally for the sake of divorcing and getting alimony from a rich man, or presenting the "father's rights" viewpoint of abortion, or quoting FB profiles of "feminists" showing them describe how they intentionally de-masculinise  their own children, it get's pretty easy to convince moderate men that feminism is a bad bad thing.

Technically, this boils down to quoting scumbags who may or may not represent the majority of the movement -- in short, it's showing moderates the equivalent of "jewish blood drinking and baby eating" in order to make the more insane ideals -- like unequal pay -- seem rational. I'm willing to bet that this AM radiofag you stepped in on was presenting the "insane" side of anti-feminist rhetoric on the assumption that his audience would be those who had been preconditioned to question feminism -- i.e. he was preaching "kill the jews" assuming that you've already read mein kampf...

tl;dr you don't understand their view point because you haven't been conditioned with their propaganda.