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Syria reported to have use Chemical Warfare

Started by Suu, April 23, 2013, 02:08:50 PM

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Cain

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Junkenstein

Question: how are these figures so quickly and easily available? I would have thought some clever fuck would have been able to slap a secrecy stamp over lobbying funds by now.

They seem to come out rather quickly and accurately all the time and no one cares.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on September 16, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
Question: how are these figures so quickly and easily available? I would have thought some clever fuck would have been able to slap a secrecy stamp over lobbying funds by now.

They seem to come out rather quickly and accurately all the time and no one cares.

Your second comment answers your first.
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Junkenstein

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on September 16, 2013, 09:14:54 PM
I'd really hoped that wasn't the case.

They have to name their donors.  They never worry about changing that, because they know that the people who are going to vote for them would vote for them if they took funds from the Benedict Arnold Memorial Trust, so long as they're in the correct party, and the people who won't vote for them wouldn't vote for them if Jesus showed up and hung out with him.
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cramulus

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Telarus

Quote from: Cramulus on September 16, 2013, 09:20:20 PM
Here's the best tool I've found to look them up:

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:pax: Wes is a groovy frood ;)
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Junkenstein

Thanks Cram!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24155674

QuoteSyrian President Bashar al-Assad has said he is committed to a plan to destroy his country's chemical weapons but warned it could take about a year.

Quote"So it depends, you have to ask the experts what they mean by quickly. It has a certain schedule. It needs a year, or maybe a little bit more."

And when asked whether he would be willing to hand over chemical weapons to the US, President Assad said: "It needs about one billion. It is very detrimental to the environment. If the American administration is ready to pay this money and take the responsibility of bringing toxic materials to the United States, why don't they do it?"

Putin is laughing his ass off right now.
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Junkenstein

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24227704

QuoteSeveral people have been killed and wounded in an explosion in the Syrian capital, Damascus, Syrian state TV reports.

The state new agency Sana said a "terrorist bombing" attack had taken place in the Tadamon district in the south of the capital.

Tadamon has been a battleground between rebel forces and the army for months.

Later on Monday, the UN General Assembly is due to meet, with much of its focus on the Syria crisis.

The UK-based activist group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, says a car bomb killed at least seven people and wounded 15, some of them critically.

More than 100,000 people have died in the conflict, according to the UN, and millions have fled the country or been made homeless.

Just a reminder that shit is still
a)bad
b)ongoing

here. Also interesting to see how long the 100,000 number is going to be used for. There's been more than 100,000 dead since before the furore about the recent chemical attack. I suspect the actual number to be at least 110,000 - 150,000 +.

This clusterfuck has plenty of mileage yet.
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Cain

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Salty

 :lol:

Wow. That's pretty impressive, really. That would have to take an awful lot of bullshit.

Also, Christ, what an asshole.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on September 24, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24227704

QuoteSeveral people have been killed and wounded in an explosion in the Syrian capital, Damascus, Syrian state TV reports.

The state new agency Sana said a "terrorist bombing" attack had taken place in the Tadamon district in the south of the capital.

Tadamon has been a battleground between rebel forces and the army for months.

Later on Monday, the UN General Assembly is due to meet, with much of its focus on the Syria crisis.

The UK-based activist group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, says a car bomb killed at least seven people and wounded 15, some of them critically.

More than 100,000 people have died in the conflict, according to the UN, and millions have fled the country or been made homeless.

Just a reminder that shit is still
a)bad
b)ongoing

here. Also interesting to see how long the 100,000 number is going to be used for. There's been more than 100,000 dead since before the furore about the recent chemical attack. I suspect the actual number to be at least 110,000 - 150,000 +.

This clusterfuck has plenty of mileage yet.

"millions have fled the country or been made homeless" is a flag that the death toll is probably vastly higher than that.
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Junkenstein

Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 25, 2013, 07:44:51 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 24, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24227704

QuoteSeveral people have been killed and wounded in an explosion in the Syrian capital, Damascus, Syrian state TV reports.

The state new agency Sana said a "terrorist bombing" attack had taken place in the Tadamon district in the south of the capital.

Tadamon has been a battleground between rebel forces and the army for months.

Later on Monday, the UN General Assembly is due to meet, with much of its focus on the Syria crisis.

The UK-based activist group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, says a car bomb killed at least seven people and wounded 15, some of them critically.

More than 100,000 people have died in the conflict, according to the UN, and millions have fled the country or been made homeless.

Just a reminder that shit is still
a)bad
b)ongoing

here. Also interesting to see how long the 100,000 number is going to be used for. There's been more than 100,000 dead since before the furore about the recent chemical attack. I suspect the actual number to be at least 110,000 - 150,000 +.

This clusterfuck has plenty of mileage yet.

"millions have fled the country or been made homeless" is a flag that the death toll is probably vastly higher than that.

That's a very good point. I knew I was probably on the low side with those figures, because, frankly, the actual number will probably never be known is has got to be fucking horrific regardless of what it is.

As is usual in this era, we will probably get a more accurate figure in monetary cost than human lives. After all, the longer this goes on, the more lucrative the contract awarding stage will be. If Afghanistan and Iraq are models to go by Syria is going to have serious corruption problems after it deals with everything else.  That's assuming everything goes smoothly too.
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Cain

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Junkenstein

Fun continues unabated:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24301618

QuoteUN inspectors are investigating seven alleged chemical weapons attacks in Syria - three of which happened after the 21 August Damascus incident that sparked threats of US military action.

The UN said its team of inspectors is set to finish its work by Monday.

The day after, a separate team is due to arrive in Damascus to inspect Syria's chemical weapons stockpile.

Still no indication if the events prior to the August 21st attack are going to be investigated. By this point it's probably pointless to even try.

QuoteThe text will then be incorporated into a UN Security Council resolution - which has been agreed by both the US and Russia - calling on Syria to give up its chemical weapons.

The resolution will condemn the use of chemical weapons in an attack on the outskirts of Damascus on 21 August which killed hundreds of people - but will not attribute blame.

No point upsetting the currently compliant dictator eh?
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