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Pope says doing good is what matters, not what you believe

Started by Pergamos, May 25, 2013, 12:02:57 PM

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Cain

I'd be more impressed if he had been inclined towards "doing good" during the Argentinian junta.

I mean, applying the Pope's own standard to himself here: his belief is that atheists can be good people.  Great.  His actions were supporting a regime that treated atheists as crypto-Marxists and actual socialists as enemies of the state.

So yeah.

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So he's basically admitting that wearing silly dresses and mumbling in cold buildings is irrelevant. I like his style :lulz:


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I say PFffffFFT. "Doing good" is all that matters, YEAH RIGHT. Blaaablabalaablaaabalaaa  :argh!: :argh!: Fucking pedofile protecting, human-nature-hating, wealth-hoarding, nazi loving sons of bitches catholic priests and popes!!!!!!!!  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:
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Quote from: Cain on May 25, 2013, 02:34:48 PM
I'd be more impressed if he had been inclined towards "doing good" during the Argentinian junta.

I mean, applying the Pope's own standard to himself here: his belief is that atheists can be good people.  Great.  His actions were supporting a regime that treated atheists as crypto-Marxists and actual socialists as enemies of the state.

So yeah.

This is true.  So by his own standard he's gonna have a hard time getting into heaven.

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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 25, 2013, 07:38:51 PM
He'll say whatever he has to.

He doesn't have to say it though.  That's why I like him for saying it.  he's the pope, he can say whatever he likes and he certainly doesn't have to say soemthing that is contradictory to traditional Catholic dogma.

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Quote from: GrannySmith on May 25, 2013, 02:47:17 PM
I say PFffffFFT. "Doing good" is all that matters, YEAH RIGHT. Blaaablabalaablaaabalaaa  :argh!: :argh!: Fucking pedofile protecting, human-nature-hating, wealth-hoarding, nazi loving sons of bitches catholic priests and popes!!!!!!!!  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

But is Francis guilty of these things? Like did he ever shield a pedophile?
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The church was all about good works until about the 70's, resulting in a schism with several orders when whichever pope it was decided to dial it back and told a bunch of nuns to knock off the helping people.
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The church has nearly split over the arguement of what combination of faith and good acts get one saved before.  Record aside he's hit Ecumanical Council hot button material head on.
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Quote from: Pergamos on May 25, 2013, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 25, 2013, 07:38:51 PM
He'll say whatever he has to.

He doesn't have to say it though.  That's why I like him for saying it.  he's the pope, he can say whatever he likes and he certainly doesn't have to say soemthing that is contradictory to traditional Catholic dogma.

All of his charismatic posturing as being humble and poor, to me, are just bullshit PR work.

As long as the institution keeps working as it has been lately, he's just providing a pretty mask for a monster.

I don't like monsters.
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Quote from: The Johnny on May 26, 2013, 12:41:19 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on May 25, 2013, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 25, 2013, 07:38:51 PM
He'll say whatever he has to.

He doesn't have to say it though.  That's why I like him for saying it.  he's the pope, he can say whatever he likes and he certainly doesn't have to say soemthing that is contradictory to traditional Catholic dogma.

All of his charismatic posturing as being humble and poor, to me, are just bullshit PR work.

As long as the institution keeps working as it has been lately, he's just providing a pretty mask for a monster.

I don't like monsters.

Yes.

Although the statement that not all non-Catholics are going to hell is still pretty cool because it could change a lot of attitudes.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: GrannySmith on May 25, 2013, 02:47:17 PM
I say PFffffFFT. "Doing good" is all that matters, YEAH RIGHT. Blaaablabalaablaaabalaaa  :argh!: :argh!: Fucking pedofile protecting, human-nature-hating, wealth-hoarding, nazi loving sons of bitches catholic priests and popes!!!!!!!!  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

*regrets having used the one-pun-a-day allowance*

Maybe if they wanted to do good, they could stop telling people that God hates birth control.

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 05:18:50 AM

Although the statement that not all non-Catholics are going to hell is still pretty cool because it could change a lot of attitudes.

This is a cautiously optimistic thing.
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Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 05:18:50 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on May 26, 2013, 12:41:19 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on May 25, 2013, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 25, 2013, 07:38:51 PM
He'll say whatever he has to.

He doesn't have to say it though.  That's why I like him for saying it.  he's the pope, he can say whatever he likes and he certainly doesn't have to say soemthing that is contradictory to traditional Catholic dogma.

All of his charismatic posturing as being humble and poor, to me, are just bullshit PR work.

As long as the institution keeps working as it has been lately, he's just providing a pretty mask for a monster.

I don't like monsters.

Yes.

Although the statement that not all non-Catholics are going to hell is still pretty cool because it could change a lot of attitudes.

Which is why it was immediately contradicted by "a Vatican spokesman"....
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/05/24/vatican-representative-just-to-be-clear-atheists-are-still-going-to-hell/
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Thank fuck we don't believe in hell, then, otherwise that would be pretty shitty for us  :lulz:

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