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Started by East Coast Hustle, May 26, 2013, 09:21:51 PM

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Clearly the answer isn't to speed up the craft or adjust its mass of the craft its to make the earth smaller and slower.
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So the mass of the ship is involved or isnt it?
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Quote from: El Twid on May 30, 2013, 03:08:33 PM
So the mass of the ship is involved or isnt it?

They say it isn't or rather that they have been able to achieve the warping effect without the huge mass.  When you described the effect

"The other reason is, doesn't higher gravity end up slowing time down? That is to say, from our perspective, the ship would be moving away at faster than the speed of light, but if we could see the people on board, they would barely be moving, since time is going faster for us"

If the ship is crossing that distance at a fraction of the time it takes us then it would be the opposite, the people on board would appear to be moving incredibly fast.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Oh- i think i have it. I read recently that part the speed of light the relativistic effects are reversed so that as you approach light speed time on the ship slows down but them part light speed the faster you go the more ship time speeds up. Is that part of whats happening here?
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Quote from: El Twid on May 30, 2013, 03:32:15 PM
Oh- i think i have it. I read recently that part the speed of light the relativistic effects are reversed so that as you approach light speed time on the ship slows down but them part light speed the faster you go the more ship time speeds up. Is that part of whats happening here?

Maybe, but the speed of light wont turn a thousand year journey into a few weeks, it will turn it into a 996 year journey so there's something more to it.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Gotcha. One of those heres what happens damned if we know why yet things.
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Quote from: El Twid on May 30, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
Gotcha. One of those heres what happens damned if we know why yet things.

Well, they might know. They just didn't say in that article.
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From this part...
QuoteRemember, nothing locally exceeds the speed of light, but space can expand and contract at any speed," White told io9. "However, space-time is really stiff, so to create the expansion and contraction effect in a useful manner in order for us to reach interstellar destinations in reasonable time periods would require a lot of energy."

I get that the spaceship isn't moving, so much as the universe is moving and the spaceship stays still.


Kinda like that joke about the narcissist and the lightbulb.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 01, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
That's not a joke. I actually do that  :oops:
Hold the lightbulb in the socket and the world rotates around you?

If that's not from a bloated ego I wish I had access to what you're on.
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Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 01, 2013, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 01, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
That's not a joke. I actually do that  :oops:
Hold the lightbulb in the socket and the world rotates around you?

If that's not from a bloated ego I wish I had access to what you're on.

Pent is actually Santa Claus. In the most geographically possible sense, the world does rotate around him.

Also, light a fire before you go to bed on Christmas. You're not going to like what he gives you if you've been nice. Being naughty is not an alternative either, since he'll take.... liberties.... with your presents.

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Quote from: El Twid on June 01, 2013, 09:00:05 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 01, 2013, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 01, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
That's not a joke. I actually do that  :oops:
Hold the lightbulb in the socket and the world rotates around you?

If that's not from a bloated ego I wish I had access to what you're on.

Pent is actually Santa Claus. In the most geographically possible sense, the world does rotate around him.

Also, light a fire before you go to bed on Christmas. You're not going to like what he gives you if you've been nice. Being naughty is not an alternative either, since he'll take.... liberties.... with your presents.

Twid,
Has undergone reconstructive surgery, religiously lights the fireplace.

Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy