Natural selection applied to the laws of nature

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Ive heard the idea of black holes causing big bangs but this is the first ive heard of natural selection being applied to it. Thoughts? www.space.com/21335-black-holes-time-universe-creation.html

[Doktor Howl]

Ive heard the idea of black holes causing big bangs but this is the first ive heard of natural selection being applied to it. Thoughts? www.space.com/21335-black-holes-time-universe-creation.html

Secular humanism.  God created the big bangs exactly as they are today.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Dok i think you just blew out one of my fuses.

[Doktor Howl]

Dok i think you just blew out one of my fuses.

Funny thing:  I was thinking of the mechanism of black hole - big bang 20 years ago.  My professor told me "shut it, undergrad", and worry about what's in front of you.  That in itself was a lesson, and probably the most important lesson I learned in college (that academics are the most hidebound, status-conscious people on Earth).

Thing is, it's fucking intuitive.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It is intuitive. Black hole- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless. The universe before the big bang- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Hmm, very interesting! I am really curious about the relationship between time, light and gravity. Unfortunately, I really don't have time to get a physics degree.

[Doktor Howl]

It is intuitive. Black hole- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless. The universe before the big bang- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless.

Mach's principle doesn't apply, either, since all the mass in existence is one discrete object.  So all the regular rules sort of go out the window for a very short period of time.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It is intuitive. Black hole- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless. The universe before the big bang- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless.

Mach's principle doesn't apply, either, since all the mass in existence is one discrete object.  So all the regular rules sort of go out the window for a very short period of time.

Welllll if light and gravity stop moving, time wouldn't move either, maybe?

[Doktor Howl]

It is intuitive. Black hole- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless. The universe before the big bang- a single point of infinite density with a bunch of mass where time is meaningless.

Mach's principle doesn't apply, either, since all the mass in existence is one discrete object.  So all the regular rules sort of go out the window for a very short period of time.

Welllll if light and gravity stop moving, time wouldn't move either, maybe?

Well, if Mach's principle is out of play, gravity and light speed limits stop working, but the other 3 forces don't.  So you get a really big explosion.  Once the object expands and is no longer a discrete object, Mach's principle comes into play and the speed of the expanding edge of the explosion becomes the speed of light in the newly-formed universe.

I have no idea if this is accurate.  It just seems like it would have to play out that way.

[Doktor Howl]

However, if that is correct, this is not something you should do as a home science experiment in the garage.  Leave it to trained professionals.  Mythbusters, maybe.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

As far as light gravity and time go as i understand it its that time basically doesnt exist in either a black hole or at the speed of light. The speed of light thing makes sense because the faster you go the more time slows down. But it gets a little trippy when you take it to the next step and realize that a photon experiences its entire existence in a single moment. I think whatever specific science i major in i still have two take two semesters of physics so maybe itll make more sense to me in a year.

[Freeky]

However, if that is correct, this is not something you should do as a home science experiment in the garage.  Leave it to trained professionals.  Mythbusters, maybe.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

However, if that is correct, this is not something you should do as a home science experiment in the garage.  Leave it to trained professionals.  Mythbusters, maybe.

Cool, I get to get a laugh out of this again, because, it is a brilliant statement.

As far as light gravity and time go as i understand it its that time basically doesnt exist in either a black hole or at the speed of light. The speed of light thing makes sense because the faster you go the more time slows down. But it gets a little trippy when you take it to the next step and realize that a photon experiences its entire existence in a single moment. I think whatever specific science i major in i still have two take two semesters of physics so maybe itll make more sense to me in a year.

The gravity bit in the initial conditions/black hole conditions make sense too, insofar that any of it makes sense. I watch a lot of Cosmos by Carl Sagan to fall asleep (I normally can't fall asleep in silence unless a human body is next to me), and I've gotten repeatedly through various episodes that a) he mentioned in passing the possibility that we are the result of a black hole and that the speed of light is necessary for the universe to be consistent. As for the second part, I keep missing why, but it's always that bit where he introduces it as photons from his nose reach us before photons from his eyes do, and then goes off into an explanation (as I drift) of three people, an agent, another agent, and an observer, one of the agents reacting inappropriately to the observer, under the conditions that light speed is not the speed limit. Something like, A is moving in this direction, B jumps out of the way, and C says, why did that guy jump 30 seconds before a collision that was impossible?

[Doktor Howl]

(I normally can't fall asleep in silence unless a human body is next to me),

And then Twid was the Boston Strangler.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

(I normally can't fall asleep in silence unless a human body is next to me),

And then Twid was the Boston Strangler.

You've seen Villager's smile.

Twid,
knows who's going to get strangled