Prism and Verizon surveillance discussion thread

[Junkenstein]

How unexpected.

[Junkenstein]

I'm almost serious. I would have thought this to be kept secret.

The officials did not describe the charges in detail because they've been filed under seal in federal court in Alexandria, Va. The documents are not publicly available.

[Cain]

http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism-keywords-for-domestic-spying-2013-6

This is an (admittedly huge) list of words that supposedly cause the NSA to flag you as a potential terrorist if you over-use them in an email.

We found this on Reddit, where James Bamford, a veteran reporter with 30 years experience covering the NSA, is answering questions from the community. This list comes from Reddit user GloriousDawn, who found it on Attrition.org, a site that very closely follows the security industry.

[Junkenstein]

President Barack Obama defended the programs in an interview with Charlie Rose of PBS on Monday. He stressed that it was important to him to set up checks on the system

Checklist:

Have we got access to everyone yet?
Can we establish detailed social links and history?
Can we know a little bit more?
Can we stop China from stealing it all the fucking time?
Do we need a new acronym now people know this one?

And so on.

[Junkenstein]

http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism-keywords-for-domestic-spying-2013-6

This is an (admittedly huge) list of words that supposedly cause the NSA to flag you as a potential terrorist if you over-use them in an email.

We found this on Reddit, where James Bamford, a veteran reporter with 30 years experience covering the NSA, is answering questions from the community. This list comes from Reddit user GloriousDawn, who found it on Attrition.org, a site that very closely follows the security industry.

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Bubba


Yeah. If PRISM can handle all the emails floating around with just that alone as triggers, EVERYTHING is getting captured.

[Don Coyote]

http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism-keywords-for-domestic-spying-2013-6

This is an (admittedly huge) list of words that supposedly cause the NSA to flag you as a potential terrorist if you over-use them in an email.

We found this on Reddit, where James Bamford, a veteran reporter with 30 years experience covering the NSA, is answering questions from the community. This list comes from Reddit user GloriousDawn, who found it on Attrition.org, a site that very closely follows the security industry.

Favourites-

chameleon man
Sardine
froglegs
Nerd
Speakeasy
Zen
redheads
Pornstars
Retinal Fetish
Tie-fighter
ninja
Sex
Bubba


Yeah. If PRISM can handle all the emails floating around with just that alone as triggers, EVERYTHING is getting captured.

Retinal Fetish

WUT?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/21/19079389-us-charges-nsa-leaker-snowden-with-espionage?lite

That is so fucked up.

[Left]

http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism-keywords-for-domestic-spying-2013-6

This is an (admittedly huge) list of words that supposedly cause the NSA to flag you as a potential terrorist if you over-use them in an email.

We found this on Reddit, where James Bamford, a veteran reporter with 30 years experience covering the NSA, is answering questions from the community. This list comes from Reddit user GloriousDawn, who found it on Attrition.org, a site that very closely follows the security industry.

Favourites-

chameleon man
Sardine
froglegs
Nerd
Speakeasy
Zen
redheads
Pornstars
Retinal Fetish
Tie-fighter
ninja
Sex
Bubba


Yeah. If PRISM can handle all the emails floating around with just that alone as triggers, EVERYTHING is getting captured.

That's an old list, I believe it was used on the program called "spook", this program would write random trigger words into you emails, if I remember correctly.
A goodly chunk of those will now be included with my every email now.
Because if I have but one shoe to toss into the machine, I shall toss that shoe.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/21/19079389-us-charges-nsa-leaker-snowden-with-espionage?lite

That is so fucked up.

Agreed.  I hope he gets asylum in Iceland.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/21/19079389-us-charges-nsa-leaker-snowden-with-espionage?lite

That is so fucked up.

Agreed.  I hope he gets asylum in Iceland.
[/quote]

If not, off with he's going to have a 'bad car accident' like Michael Hastings.

[Left]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/21/19079389-us-charges-nsa-leaker-snowden-with-espionage?lite

That is so fucked up.

Agreed.  I hope he gets asylum in Iceland.

If not, off with he's going to have a 'bad car accident' like Michael Hastings.
[/quote]

On that?  It might have been a guy driving too fast.
Though reporters who investigate the CIA do have a funny way of just dying, don't they?

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/21/19079389-us-charges-nsa-leaker-snowden-with-espionage?lite

That is so fucked up.

Agreed.  I hope he gets asylum in Iceland.

If not, off with he's going to have a 'bad car accident' like Michael Hastings.

On that?  It might have been a guy driving too fast.
Though reporters who investigate the CIA do have a funny way of just dying, don't they?
[/quote]

Driving too fast doesn't make engines explode before you hit a tree.

[The Johnny]

Bubba the Love Sponge, what the fuck?

[Cain]

Radio personality with a knack for filming people sleeping with his wife (well, Hulk Hogan, but possibly others too).  National security sometimes requires the use of skilled blackmailers.

Or it refers to some kind of code named or operation.  Probably not a very fun operation.

Or else - and I suspect this is the case for several of the odd names in those lists - they were added somewhere down the line in order to discredit the file as a whole.

[Cain]

Bill Binney recounts his experience after whistleblowing on the NSA:

Well, they came in, and there were like 12 FBI agents with their guns drawn, and came in. My son opened the door, let them in, and they pushed him out of the way at gunpoint. And they came upstairs to where my wife was getting dressed, and I was in the shower, and they were pointing guns at her, and then they - one of the agents came into the shower and pointed a gun directly at me, at my head, and of course pulled me out of the shower. So I had a towel, at least, to wrap around, but - so that's what they did.

And then they took me out and interrogated me on the back porch. And when they did that, they tried to get me - they said they wanted me to tell them something that would be - implicate someone in a crime. ... I said I didn't really know about anything. And they said they thought I was lying. Well, at that point, "OK," I said, "I'll tell you about the crime I know about," and that was that Hayden, Tenet, George Bush, Dick Cheney, they conspired to subvert the constitution and the constitutional process of checks and balances

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22952011

NOT HELPING DAD:

he father of Edward Snowden, the ex-CIA worker who leaked top secret information on US surveillance programmes, has issued a public plea urging his son to not commit "treason".

"I hope, I pray and ask that you will not release any secrets that could constitute treason," Lon Snowden said in an interview with Fox News.

He also asked his son, currently in hiding in Hong Kong, to "face justice".

With friends like these....

With a DAD like that.
Poor bastard.