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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 03:07:08 pm »
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Rosemary’s Baby was an instant bestseller when it was published in 1967. The events described were supposed to have taken place from August 1965 to June 1966 (i.e., 6/66). The Pope’s visit was in October of 1965, and Rosemary’s Satanic child was born on June 25, 1966—i.e., nine months after the Pope’s visit. (No, the implication was not that the Pope was the father!)

It should have been, though.  That would have been awesome.

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What many people do not realize, and what was not generally known at the time, was that there was an actual exorcism taking place in Manhattan on 125th Street, on the same day that the Pope celebrated Mass in Yankee Stadium (and the same day that the fictional Rosemary was being drugged and raped in the Satanic ceremony in Manhattan). The possessed person in this case was “Marianne K.,” and the event is recorded in Malachi Martin’s Hostage to the Devil, a book that was not published until 1976, almost ten years after Ira Levin’s novel had hit the bookstores.

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During the same month, actress Sharon Tate was busy filming The Fearless Vampire Killers in London with director Roman Polanski, the man who would later become her husband. She had already filmed 13, also known as Eye of the Devil, in London the previous year. Although she was perhaps better known to American audiences for her supporting role in Valley of the Dolls, her occult films gained her additional notoriety, especially after the Manson killings. It has been reliably reported that during the filming of 13 she was initiated into a form of witchcraft created by the film’s technical consultant, Alex Sanders. Sanders had developed an amalgam of Gardnerian witchcraft and ceremonial magic that was known as “Alexandrian,” after its founder’s name; Gardnerian witchcraft itself was the creation of Gerald Gardner, a one-time customs official in Malaya and expert on the kriss—the wavy-bladed knife peculiar to Malaya and Indonesia—who returned to Great Britain and became involved with Aleister Crowley. Crowley actually wrote many of Gardner’s rituals after the latter became initiated into Crowley’s OTO. The flavor of the Gardnerian Book of Shadows—the witch’s spellbook—is distinctly Crowleyan, and even has poems by Kipling, presented as if they were ancient pagan chants. Alex Sanders took some of the Gardnerian concept and mixed it with a somewhat more intellectually-demanding collection of ceremonial magic rituals, and it was this into which Sanders claimed to have initiated Sharon Tate. The same source suggests that Sanders had also had contact with members of the Manson “family,” either directly or through his wide network of Alexandrian covens in Europe, America and Australia. There is also evidence that Sanders’ group had interacted with the Process, and, if so, this is yet another connection to Manson and to the Tate murders.

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What is even more suggestive is the fact that Manson Family member, and later convicted killer, Susan Atkins performed the role of a vampire in LaVey’s 1967 public production of a Black Mass, in which she rose menacingly from a coffin. LaVey himself performed the role of the Devil in one of avant-garde filmmaker Kenneth Anger’s offerings, Invocation of My Demon Brother (1969), alongside Bobby Beausoleil, another Manson Family member and convicted murderer. Jack Parsons’ widow Marjorie Cameron had once appeared in Anger’s Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (1954), in a dual role as Kali and the Scarlet Woman. A later Anger film, Lucifer Rising (1970), was an Anita Pallenberg production, which featured Marianne Faithfull in the role of Lilith. The musical score was by Bobby Beausoleil, then already in prison for his participation in the Manson Family murders, and the film was shot in Egypt and in Externsteine, the Teutonic pagan shrine in Germany that was sacred to the Nazis. For this film, Anger enlisted the aid of Gerald Yorke as “Thelemic consultant,” i.e., as an advisor on the Crowleyan aspects of the film’s mythology. The names of Pallenberg, Faithfull, Beausoleil, LaVey and Atkins all figure prominently in our story, as we shall presently see.

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Anger was not the only one to use Beausoleil as a film actor. The soft-porn production Ramrodder—an “E.S.I. Production” shot in Topanga Canyon—features Bobby Beausoleil as a murderous Indian with Buck knife (the same type he used to kill Gary Hinman?), and Manson Family member Cathy “Gypsy” Share as an Indian “squaw.” One of the central acts of the film involves the rape and murder of a blonde woman by a group of rampaging Indians. The film is high on production value but low on virtually everything else, from script to acting. Even the sex acts are chastely mimed, with a strange over-emphasis on close-ups of swinging buttocks. The value of this film, however, lies in the fact that Manson Family members Bobby Beausoleil and Cathy Share are actors, that they portray people living rough who turn murderous, and that there is a scene showing the murder of a blonde woman by a group of these Native American “Hippies” led by Bobby Beausoleil. When the blonde asks, “Why me?” the Beausoleil character responds,You are paying for the sins of your people, just as our people are paying for the crimes of our fathers who sold our land and our honor to the white man for a string of beads…. [The Chief] says we must live by the white man’s law. Does not the white man’s law say you are to take an eye for an eye?"

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Further, the castration of a white man by Bobby Beausoleil is also a foreshadowing of the murder he would commit on musician Gary Hinman, using the same type of weapon. The portrayal of the Indian tribe as a group of promiscuous young people wearing headbands and indulging in both straight and lesbian sexual acts could be a rehearsal of the Manson Family experience, or of the Summer of Love generally. It is the degeneration of this “Hippie life-style” into a season of violence and murder—portrayed by Manson Family members as actors—that leads the author to propose that this is yet another manifestation of the influence of sinister forces below the surface of everyday actions.

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A major studio did produce Rosemary’s Baby, however. The executive producer on this project was Robert Evans, and it is Evans who will tie us in with a world of occultism, serial murder, secret societies, drug running and Hollywood celebrities that will lead from California to New York… and back to Ashland, Kentucky.

But that particular discussion takes place in the 2nd or 3rd book, I believe.

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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 03:18:54 pm »
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The Richard Condon novel, The Manchurian Candidate, was published in 1959 and became a best-seller. It told of an American GI who was captured by the Communists during the Korean War, brainwashed, and sent back to the United States as a programmed assassin: his target, a candidate for President of the United States. The film version starred Frank Sinatra, Laurence Harvey and Angela Lansbury, and was directed by John Frankenheimer. Frankenheimer had asked then-President John F. Kennedy if it was okay to make the movie, as it dealt with Communist brainwashing and the assassination of an American political leader. Frankenheimer was afraid that the sensational aspects of the plot would either inflame the American public or otherwise have an effect on Kennedy’s ongoing negotiations with the Soviets, which had become exacerbated by the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy was also trying to get the Soviets to come to the table to ban nuclear weapons testing, and was embroiled in Vietnam. Frankenheimer did not want to create an atmosphere that would rock any boat the President might be sailing at the time. Kennedy told Frankenheimer to go ahead with the film and not to worry about any political fallout. The film was released in 1962 to much critical acclaim; but in 1963 Kennedy was assassinated, and the film was pulled from distribution almost immediately, and was not seen again for almost thirty years. Five years later, in June of 1968, John Frankenheimer hosted a small dinner party at his home in Malibu. Among the guests were Roman Polanski and his wife, Sharon Tate. The guest of honor was Senator Robert F. Kennedy, then running to become Democratic candidate for President. Four of his children were also present at the dinner. The California Primary polls were open, and there was nothing else for the Senator to do until the winner was announced except enjoy the company of film stars and studio executives. It was to be his last supper. Frankenheimer drove the Senator to the Ambassador Hotel after dinner, where he would stay up the night to watch the election results. By midnight, it became obvious that Kennedy had won the California Primary. He went to the Embassy Room downstairs and declared victory to the cheers of his supporters. “On to Chicago!”

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A few moments later, he was shot to death. The accused assassin was Sirhan Bishara Sirhan, the Palestinian immigrant and Rosicrucian wannabe. He claimed (and still claims) to have no memory of the assassination (even though it took place in front of witnesses), and notebooks found in his home—seized without a warrant—opened a Pandora’s box of conspiracy theories, as they tended to support the view that Sirhan had been the subject of a mind control experiment. Also discovered was a book by occultist Manley Palmer Hall, The Divine Art of Healing. The famous “girl in the polka dot dress” was seen with Sirhan by several witnesses, and then running from the scene shouting, “We killed him!” LAPD, in its infinite wisdom, discounted the testimony of these eye-witnesses almost immediately. Sirhan himself appeared remarkably calm and peaceful when he was jumped by ex-football star Roosevelt Grier among others, yet it took six men to hold him down even though he was a small, thin man.

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One of the chief elements of the case in Turner’s view is the possibility that Sirhan was one of the first programmed assassins. First, there is the consideration of the cult angle. He bases this not only on Sirhan’s famous notebook—which contains numerous allusions to the Illuminati, to “Kuthumi” (evidently a phonetic equivalent of Theosophy’s disembodied spiritual guide Master Koot Humi), and other occult subjects—but also on several pieces of evidence which put Sirhan in contact with people adorned with occult jewelry only hours before the assassination. Sirhan, after his arrest, also requested copies of Madame Blavatsky’s The Secret Doctrine, as well as Talks on the Path of Occultism, Volume 1: At the Feet of the Master, co-authored by Blavatsky’s Theosophical Society successor and political firebrand Annie Besant and wandering “Bishop” and Theosophist Charles W. Leadbetter. Several right-wing theorists in California at the time attempted to put the blame for the assassination on an Illuminati/Rosicrucian/Theosophist conspiracy, another way of saying (to them) the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. However, the evidence—as Turner and Christian demonstrate—goes deeper than a possible cult connection to Sirhan, although we see our old friends, the wandering bishops, turn up again in the figure of one of Turner’s top suspects in the case, hypnotist and suspected mind controller Dr. William Joseph Bryan, Jr.

Who was also possibly an Old Catholic Bishop, as mentioned before.

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investigative researchers tend to ignore the Wandering Bishop phenomenon because it is just too weird and seemingly irrelevant; certainly, one has to be pretty much of an expert in the subject to see any relevance at all, and it may be doubtful whether the effort is worth the candle.

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Turner is correct in mentioning that it is the same church to which David Ferrie belonged; as we saw in the previous chapter, Ferrie was on close terms with both an Old Roman Catholic bishop, Earl James, and the testimony of Bishop Carl Stanley of the American Orthodox Catholic Church to the FBI gives evidence of his relationship to that organization. Since these churches swapped ordinations and consecrations like baseball cards, it is entirely possible (nay, likely) that Ferrie was a priest or bishop of the Old Roman Catholic Church as well as of the American Orthodox Catholic Church, making Ferrie and Bryan fellow clergymen.

And one just happened to be involved in the JFK assassination, while the other is somehow involved in the RFK assassination.  So many shared interests...

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As noted earlier, David Ferrie was something of an amateur hypnotist, and he used hypnosis and drugs in some combination in his dubious “therapies,” probably as a method of seduction. William Joseph Bryan was a much more successful hypnotist (it was his career), and, as a notorious womanizer, often used hypnosis for pretty much the same purposes as Ferrie; and his resume was if anything even more suggestive. A large, bearded man who taxed the scales at nearly 400 pounds, he was even stranger in his appearance than hairless Ferrie; a fat man who expected his secretaries to sleep with him, and who used hypnosis to sexually exploit still others. He demonstrated his hypnotic powers in public on many occasions, even putting noted defense attorney F. Lee Bailey under, along with two other lawyers, in a seminar organized by Melvin Belli (talk about a “dream team”). He also consulted on many famous criminal cases, and had hypnotized accused serial killer Albert DiSalvo (the “Boston Strangler”) in his cell.

William Bryan was also:

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during the Korean War, worked for the US Air Force in what he termed “the brainwashing section.” If this was, in fact, true and not some of Bryan’s notorious hyperbole, then he certainly came to the attention of the CIA, which had just geared up Operation BLUEBIRD at this time and had sent agents to Korea to investigate the brainwashing phenomenon and to come up with ways to protect American servicemen against it. In fact, he would have been working for, or with, Dr. James Monroe, the Air Force officer we met in the previous chapter, who also specialized in brainwashing and was adopted by the CIA. As an admittedly powerful hypnotist, Bryan would have been scooped up by the CIA almost at once. Hypnosis—along with drugs—was the CIA’s immediate strategy in the development of the “Manchurian Candidate,” and they were working with hypnotists in New York and elsewhere in the attempt to develop a workable protocol. If the records of Bryan’s successes are anything to go by, then he already had the system down pat. According to Bryan’s associates, he admitted to working for the CIA; the only question is, for how long?

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Although Bryan would gleefully describe any of the cases he worked on, especially high-profile cases like DiSalvo, he would change the subject when Sirhan’s case was brought up, and occasionally turn angry at reporters or investigators who had the temerity to mention it. This was uncharacteristic of Bryan, and points to another level of knowledge about the case. Eerily, Sirhan would also turn angry and upset when the Rosicrucians were mentioned, insisting that they not be brought into the investigation. This has led Turner and Christian to wonder if that was a deliberate hypnotic suggestion, implanted by Bryan or some other programmer, to divert attention away from the real conspirators. The “DiSalvo” reference in Sirhan’s notebooks, however, suggests that the name of this alleged serial killer was brought up during Sirhan’s programming, perhaps as a trigger word or, more likely, as a reference back to the original programmer. This would have to have been Bryan, since Bryan famously worked on the DiSalvo case. Did Bryan plant the “DiSalvo” reference as a kind of calling card? Or did Sirhan see the name of his programmer linked to DiSalvo in a newspaper or magazine article? There is no other connection between Sirhan and DiSalvo that anyone has been able to discover. It is perhaps the only pure anomaly in Sirhan’s notebooks. It has nothing to do with politics, with Robert Kennedy, with the Illuminati or the Theosophists. It is as glaring—in the context of the notebooks—as a black cat on a white rug. The only connection to both Sirhan and DiSalvo is, of course, Bryan himself.

Well, that's not....nope, still not working.

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Researcher, and William Turner’s co-author, Jonn Christian interviewed a hypnotherapist who had encountered Sirhan in Pasadena in 1966. The hypnotherapist—Richard St. Charles—also had a stage act, and he would hand out slips for people to fill in their names and addresses for a mailing list. Sirhan’s name and address was on one of them. Based on notes he made at the time, St. Charles recalled that Sirhan was a good hypnotic subject and, in his opinion, had been hypnotized before St. Charles ever met him. Thus, Sirhan had been hypnotized by St. Charles in 1966, and possibly by someone else even earlier. In fact, Sirhan was not the only assassin who had prior experience of hypnosis. James Earl Ray had also been hypnotized in Los Angeles two months before the assassination of Dr. King—by one Reverend Xavier von Koss—and a book on hypnotism was found in his safe house in Toronto, one of the stops he made before escaping to Europe.

Levenda then goes on to recount the strange tale of Candy Jones, and how it may shine a light on the CIA interest in hypnotism and assassination:

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What we do have is Candy Jones’ story, and it is a very strange tale indeed of hypnosis, drugs, mind control experiments, foreign assignments, torture, and a post-hypnotic instruction to commit suicide. It is a story made even more bizarre by the peripheral characters involved, one of whom would become a member of the Warren Commission and later President of the United States, the same man who would be the focus of an alleged assassination attempt by a former Manson Family member.

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Modeling agent John Powers invited her to New York City on a spurious offer to appear in a Chesterfield cigarette ad, and when that didn’t pan out she found herself visiting the offices of competitor Harry Conover. Harry Conover had formed his modeling agency in partnership with another male model, Gerald Ford. Yes, the same Gerald Ford who would become President of the United States.

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It was Candy Jones that people of my parents’ generation remember as the WAC and WAVE girl, urging young ladies to enlist during the War years. She was also a very popular pin-up girl in the candy-striped bathing suit that was her trademark, as well as in a more demure gown fashioned of parachute nylon. Her picture could be found in GI barracks all over Asia, and her tour was enormously successful until the day she contracted an illness from drinking unpasteurized milk, and had to be hospitalized in the Philippines. This was in April 1945. The illness was compounded by malaria and jungle rot, and eventually Candy found her hair falling out and her complexion turning different shades from the malaria. It was during this time in hospital that she met a medic, who is named Dr. Gilbert Jensen in the Donald Bain book. It was a chance meeting amid the last days of the War, and she did not think of it again for nearly fifteen years.

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shortly after the break-in at his office, Candy Jones is visited by an FBI agent known only as “Ted,” who asks her questions about the break-in which then segues into a request for her to assist in an FBI mail-drop operation. In this case, she will receive mail that is addressed to specific people not working at her agency. She is to hold the mail until an FBI agent comes to pick it up. This is all well and good, until “the general” himself phones in the late summer of 1960 and asks her to take a letter to someone in San Francisco, where she will be organizing a fashion show.

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the mail drop was a CIA drop, because when she arrives in San Francisco she is phoned by the pseudonymous Gilbert Jensen, and a meeting is arranged at his office on Cyprus Street in Oakland, where she undergoes her first hypnotic trance.


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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 03:19:04 pm »
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San Francisco was a hotbed of MK-ULTRA activity in the 1960s, incorporating everything from drugs to hypnosis and, later, to paranormal and occult research. In 1955, MK-ULTRA operator George White (who worked for the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and not directly for the CIA, and thus had “plausible deniability”) had moved to San Francisco from New York City, where he had run a “safehouse” that was used to test the effects of various drugs on prostitutes and their clients via two-way mirrors and the like. He set up an identical operation on Telegraph Hill, and wired it for sound, bringing in hookers, their johns, and eventually a whole assortment of local characters, both underworld and “civilian.” George White’s operation in San Francisco went on until the summer of 1963, covering the time of Candy Jones’ first visit to the hypnotist in the autumn of 1960.

And for those who doubt the usefulness of hypnotism, as "a hypnotised subject cannot be made to do anything against their ethics"...well, remember, most people's ethics are pretty shit, if someone in a uniform gives them an order.

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As an example, the CIA’s own Morse Allen—who led the hypnosis side of the search for the Manchurian Candidate—performed experiments on his own staff in the 1950s which demonstrated how easy it was to get someone to pull the trigger. As described in John Marks’ The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, Allen hypnotized a secretary on February 19, 1954 sending her into a deep trance. He then hypnotized another secretary and told her she had to wake up the first secretary; if she could not, then she should become enraged, pick up a pistol and kill her. The first secretary was unable to come out of the trance unless Morse Allen gave her the command, and therefore could not be awakened; thus the second secretary became enraged and picked up a pistol—not knowing it was unloaded—and shot the first woman. When she was brought out of the trance, she had no memory of the event and insisted she would never shoot anyone. What more evidence is necessary? A woman was told to commit an outrageous act of which she would not have been capable in a waking state, a morally-reprehensible act, in fact murder, and then had no memory of it upon awakening. As early as 1954, therefore, the CIA had the technology in hand to create programmed assassins. The only difficulty they faced was the “delivery system”: how to snatch an unwitting person, a person with no discernible ties to the Agency, put them under, and give them the post-hypnotic suggestion to kill another human being? They needed to experiment on the real world, and several scenarios were developed that would enable CIA operators to implement this technology under “battlefield” conditions.

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In addition, Allen wanted to know if a person who had been hypnotized to forget certain vital information—a lock on the Land of Memory to which only the hypnotist had the key—could stand up under torture. Allen had suggested they use the services of a friendly foreign intelligence agency or police department, such as “Taiwan or Paraguay,” (nations where torture as an interrogation tool was widely practiced) to test the strength of the posthypnotic amnesiac state. This way, they could create a genuine, threatening and dangerous environment equal to that a real agent would experience if captured by an enemy agency; plus the CIA would have distanced itself (legally, if not morally) from the actual torture of the subject. More plausible deniability. The subject would be tortured by these foreign agents in an effort to make him to reveal “classified” information. According to the CIA, there is no knowledge of such vile experimentation actually taking place. According to Candy Jones, it did.

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Her first meeting with Gilbert Jensen in Oakland included a hypnotic session. He first asked her a number of questions about her personal life, including details about her childhood: specifically, about imaginary playmates she had. This is potentially the most explosive area of the investigation because, as we will see and as has been reported by Marks and others, the CIA explored the possibility of creating or developing alternate personalities in their mind control subjects, essentially manipulating what DSM-IV calls “dissociative identity disorder,” or what used to be known as “multiple personality disorder.” The CIA felt that if access was had to a violent personality hidden within the subject, then that personality could commit violent acts and keep the memory from the conscious recall of the core personality.

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As Marks writes, The candidate had to be among the one person in five who make a good hypnotic subject, and he needed to have dissociative tendency to separate part of his personality from the main body of his consciousness. The hope was to take an existing ego state—such as an imaginary childhood play-mate—and build it into a separate personality, unknown to the first. The hypnotist would communicate directly with this schizophrenic offshoot and command it to carry out specific deeds about which the main personality would know nothing.

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During hypnosis there was a deliberate attempt to focus on one of Ms. Jones’ “alters,” an imaginary playmate of Candy’s childhood, who turned into the aggressive and cynical personality known as Arlene Grant. The “Arlene Grant” persona was discussed during Ms. Jones’ first visit with Jensen, even including hair coloring, much to Candy’s irritation since the questions seemed rather bizarre for someone who was interviewing her for a possible role in American intelligence. During the course of several visits to Jensen’s office during 1960 and 1961, Jensen “conjured” Arlene Grant to appear, using what appears to be a combination of drugs—possibly including sodium amytal—and hypnosis. This relationship with “Arlene” would continue for 12 years.

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Candy Jones was a blonde; Arlene Grant became a brunette. This required Ms. Jones to wear a dark wig when she was on assignment on behalf of the CIA, using a false passport in her “alter” personality. Photographs of Candy Jones and “Arlene Grant” in Bain’s book are quite dissimilar; one would have to know that they were the same person to note the physical identity. “Arlene Grant” was also programmed to endure tremendous physical pain, something that is common under hypnosis, as many can attest from public demonstrations. Candy Jones was afraid of Arlene; Arlene despised Candy as a weakling and as a far too trusting individual. Over the course of Candy’s sessions with Jensen, Arlene would be the personality who would be constantly “invoked” by the hypnotist; it was Arlene who was given the undercover assignments, acting as a courier all over the United States and eventually in Asia. And it was Arlene who was sent to Taiwan in October of 1966—one of the two countries mentioned by Morse Allen as potential hosts for the “terminal” experiments in hypnosis and mind control—and tortured.

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The trip to Taiwan was made after the usual visit to Gilbert Jensen’s office in Oakland. In this case, she was given the Arlene Grant passport and an airline ticket in Arlene Grant’s name. She left the office in the dark wig and in the persona of Arlene Grant, where she would remain until her return from Taiwan. She was met at the airport by a man who had been president of the Taipei Chamber of Commerce and taken to his house outside Taipei. She gave him the envelope she had carried from the States, and much to her surprise was taken to a room in the basement of the house, and then hooked up to electrodes and tortured. She was asked if she knew a Gilbert Jensen, and she said she didn’t; she was asked about the contents of the envelope and said she didn’t have any idea. And on and on. Eventually, the man made a phone call and when he returned, he unhooked her and told her it was all a misunderstanding and that the electro-shock was only used to “jog her memory.” She stayed for lunch, and they drove her back to the airport that night. Due to the method of electrode placement, her hands were severely burned, enough that she wore gloves for days afterwards to hide the evidence, something that friends of hers remarked upon. She also had been gone from her office for a week without any warning or advice to her staff, which was even more unusual.

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Her 1968 trip or trips to Taiwan involved more specific torture sessions, and seemed to include a scorpion and a coral snake, both very poisonous. It also involved being drugged, examined, pinched and interrogated by what appeared to be a Chinese nurse, and all of this done under the observation of an American in what appeared to be a kind of elaborate inn or guesthouse that included an infirmary. The location of this house is not known, except that it was not in Taipei this time, but in the south of Taiwan, probably in Kaohsiung. Ms. Jones was pinched very painfully by the “nurse,” so much so that her arms and breasts were black-and-blue from the assaults. On her way out, she fell down a flight of stairs, so weak was she from the drugs and the torture. She apparently passed the test, because she was escorted back to the airport, and then flew back to the States, reporting as usual to Jensen. The exact date of this trip to Taiwan is not known, except that her Taiwan visits ended in 1968. Another trip she made that year is, if anything, even more suggestive, as she was in California during the Democratic Primary on the day Robert F. Kennedy was shot.

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This time, she was visiting an institute run by another pseudonymous hypnotist, called “Dr. Marshall Burger” in the Bain book, who had a thriving practice in Chicago before moving to northern California and establishing his “institute” on behalf of the CIA.

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Thus “Marshall Burger” could have been an employee—official or unofficial—of the Human Ecology Society or one of the various fronts the CIA employed to provide sufficient distance between it and its experimentation. (At this point, after all of the revelations concerning MK-ULTRA, there is probably no longer a need to keep the identities of these individuals—Burger and Jensen—secret, and their exposure would only serve to validate the late Candy Jones’ story.) The disturbing fact about Burger and his relationship to Candy Jones was the racist indoctrination she underwent at his seminars at a secret school somewhere in a small town in Texas on the Louisiana border (possibly the town of Orange). This is the strangest, most anomalous part of the story of Candy Jones and does not mesh with what we know of the CIA. According to the Bain book, Jones was taken to this class by Jensen, who introduced Burger to the class. Burger then went into a tirade concerning blacks, Hispanics, Asians, miscegenation, and the whole Bible of race hatred, including a recommendation that mixed-race couples should be sterilized. There is no way that this could have been an official CIA session. As much as we may distrust any secret intelligence agency—or the CIA in particular—there would be no discernible requirement or value for the type of class Candy Jones describes, except in the most feverish imagination of conspiracy theorists. More than that, however, is the lack of a clear motive for instilling racist concepts in hypnosis subjects like Candy, or in any of the other persons who attended the class. Yet, in the transcript of the hypnosis session between Candy Jones and her husband, John Nebel, she insists that Burger “is the CIA. He’s important out here in discussions, but I don’t know how big he is.”

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Jensen had expressed racist feelings to Candy Jones years before, when both were in the Philippines during the War. This was before the creation of the CIA in 1947, and obviously was not part of a psychological warfare or mind control scenario. The author suggests that Jensen and Burger were genuine racists, and that they had a hidden agenda. He further suggests that Candy Jones was a deniable asset of the Agency, an informal agent who was being used as an experimental subject and nothing more, but that her training and progress under Jensen’s ministrations were being closely observed by the CIA as a case study in the use of hypnosis as a method for creating the Holy Grail: the Manchurian Candidate. If she could be made to express racist feelings—and if her presence at the “training school” in Texas was somehow recorded for posterity—then were she involved in a political assassination, it could be put down to race hatred, as it had been in the case of James Earl Ray and the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. earlier that same year.

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The fact that Candy paints both Jensen and Burger as racists—as committed and even rabid racists—and the parallel fact that both Sirhan Sirhan and James Earl Ray were known without a doubt to have been hypnotized in California prior to their assassinations of known anti-racists… is either a coincidence of muscular proportions, or it points to an intelligence operation in place at the time being run either by the CIA or by a secret, frantic faction thereof.

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Yet, since we are on the subject of coincidence—meaningful or not—we can refer to an occult novel first published in 1972 by one David St. John: The Coven. The novel is about a Pennsylvania Senator and his wife who are embroiled in a secret underground cult in Washington, D.C. based on the powers of a young, black African priestess. The Senator’s wife—Catherine Vane—is a tall, beautiful blonde who, for some reason that is never explained in the book, wears a black wig. The hero of the tale, a former US Attorney-turneddetective with the appropriately Ayn-Randish name of Jonathan Gault, beds the Senator’s wife without too much trouble but does not appear to have done much else in the entire length of the novel except gather intelligence and illegally dispose of a body. The fact that the couple are from Pennsylvania (there is even a scene involving a company in Wilkes-Barre, Candy Jones’ home town) and that the woman wears a black wig for no particular reason, Arlene Grant style, and turns out to be a murderer who undergoes a trance in the middle of an occult ceremony in the basement of an abandoned house in Washington… well, it would have been no more than an interesting parallel to the Candy Jones tale except that the real name of the pseudonymous author of The Coven is E. Howard Hunt, former CIA agent, Bay of Pigs action officer, despiser of Kennedys, and convicted Watergate “Plumber.”

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Candy Jones was taken to the Farm in November 1971. The Farm—as aficionados of CIA fiction and non-fiction are aware—is the training facility in Virginia where the Agency puts its agents through a kind of espionage boot camp. It was there that Ms. Jones was finally displayed before Jensen’s colleagues as an example of his perfect control. According to her recall of the event while under hypnosis by her husband, there were about twenty-four people in attendance watching while Jensen put Candy through her paces, people she assumes were doctors.

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Donald Bain is careful to state at the beginning of his book that some of the material recalled by Ms. Jones under hypnosis—by her husband, in fact, an amateur hypnotist at best—might be tainted by leading questions and other environmental cues and may not be pure memory. Fair enough. But there is a level of credibility in the story of Candy Jones that cannot be denied. Something happened to her during those long years between 1960 and 1972, when she finally managed to escape the clutches of her controllers by marrying John Nebel. She was subject to wild mood swings in public, actually complete personality changes as “Arlene” took over; she would be gone for long periods of time; she did have friends in the government, some of whom she made during her USO stint during the war. All in all, there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest that at least part of her story is true. Her details on Taiwan and on her visits to San Francisco are also very much to the point. She names her controllers to her husband, although these names are disguised in Donald Bain’s book; thus we are to assume that these are people whose identities are known to a circle of people around the late Candy Jones. The lack of independent confirmation of her story is frustrating, but the internal evidence is compelling. What can be checked against other sources has been checked to the best of the author’s ability, and he finds himself supporting the basic elements of her story.

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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 03:22:24 pm »
What the everloving fuck

Also, that movie sounds terrible. I still kind of want to see it, though.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 03:33:02 pm »
I know.  My reaction every three pages in reading these books has been: wat.

There was also a large digression in the first book about the Mound builders in Kentucky, the presence of the Welsh in America, and other stuff I left out.

Will now get to work on finishing book 2.

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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2013, 04:19:08 pm »
I know.  My reaction every three pages in reading these books has been: wat.

There was also a large digression in the first book about the Mound builders in Kentucky, the presence of the Welsh in America, and other stuff I left out.

Will now get to work on finishing book 2.

The Mound Builders are interesting as fuck. Especially since they're supposedly my ancestors.

Weirdos.

What's this about Welsh in America? That's just crazytown. Everyone knows the Welsh can't cross water.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2013, 04:24:03 pm »
Holy shit. The stuff in this thread is insane. There is so much crazy out there.
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 04:43:25 pm »
I know.  My reaction every three pages in reading these books has been: wat.

There was also a large digression in the first book about the Mound builders in Kentucky, the presence of the Welsh in America, and other stuff I left out.

Will now get to work on finishing book 2.

The Mound Builders are interesting as fuck. Especially since they're supposedly my ancestors.

Weirdos.

What's this about Welsh in America? That's just crazytown. Everyone knows the Welsh can't cross water.

Apparently, there was a white-skinned tribe in America who spoke a variation of Welsh.  History suggests it might have been a Welsh Prince who fled the conquest in the 12th century.  They were mostly wiped out by the late 18th century, but fortifications in their former lands matched Welsh ones from the same period, and a Welsh soldier who was once taken prisoner by them said he could easily communicate with them.

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 04:59:29 pm »
I know.  My reaction every three pages in reading these books has been: wat.

There was also a large digression in the first book about the Mound builders in Kentucky, the presence of the Welsh in America, and other stuff I left out.

Will now get to work on finishing book 2.

The Mound Builders are interesting as fuck. Especially since they're supposedly my ancestors.

Weirdos.

What's this about Welsh in America? That's just crazytown. Everyone knows the Welsh can't cross water.

Apparently, there was a white-skinned tribe in America who spoke a variation of Welsh.  History suggests it might have been a Welsh Prince who fled the conquest in the 12th century.  They were mostly wiped out by the late 18th century, but fortifications in their former lands matched Welsh ones from the same period, and a Welsh soldier who was once taken prisoner by them said he could easily communicate with them.

Yeah, I've read those accounts and they're all pretty sketchy.
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 05:03:55 pm »
These books sound like roughly a 10 for entertainment, but maybe a 4- for credibility.
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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2013, 05:08:23 pm »
(Only because some of the things he talks about actually exist, like the movie with Marianne Faithfull.)

Levenda must have been on some goooood shit!  :lol:
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 05:19:22 pm »
Yeah, I dunno how I feel about the whole diffusionist/originalist arguments either.  Possibly because I don't really care either way.

But the whole MK-ULTRA stuff is on much stronger ground, even where that ground gets decidedly strange, like with Andrija Puharich stuff.

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 05:45:42 pm »
Yeah, I dunno how I feel about the whole diffusionist/originalist arguments either.  Possibly because I don't really care either way.

But the whole MK-ULTRA stuff is on much stronger ground, even where that ground gets decidedly strange, like with Andrija Puharich stuff.

Yeah, that's both the most intriguing, and also, unfortunately, the hardest to corroborate.
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2013, 05:50:56 pm »
Yeah.  He tries, combining witness testimony with government reports with stuff from investigative journalists, but thanks to Richard Helms, everything comes down to a statement of probability in the end.

And given my knowledge of US programs comes from things like Operation Mongoose and the whole "Earth First Battalion", my threshold of "too crazy for the US government" is very, very high.

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2013, 06:18:11 pm »
Yeah.  He tries, combining witness testimony with government reports with stuff from investigative journalists, but thanks to Richard Helms, everything comes down to a statement of probability in the end.

And given my knowledge of US programs comes from things like Operation Mongoose and the whole "Earth First Battalion", my threshold of "too crazy for the US government" is very, very high.

Oh yeah, the US government has pulled some serious whackadoo, not to mention unbelievable breaches in ethics.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”