I fucking HAET PUA's

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How do they translate "You fucking disgust me"? "Try harder"? 

Anything that isn't yes means "Insert another quarter." Women are slot machines. Men are little old ladies glued to sparkly machines, just waiting for one of us to squirt out a pile of nickels. Don't be a hater, stelz. It lowers your rank on my ladder. Don't you want some of this sweet, sweet lovin'?

Don't get me started on all the recent "friend-zone" frame of thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I WILL KILL A MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!

YES

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

That "Friend-Zone" TOTAL BULLSHIT irritates the fuck out of me.

well, might as well (LOL):

withou getting into why i have more female friends than male...

look, first of all, one should only establish relationships with peers that are similar, are symphatetic in any which form or have a certain synergy, be it friends, lovers or whatever... otherwise you are simply a vulture (yes, i know my fucking favourite word of use in this forum, so be it) that is out to leech out of your rich "friend" or trying to fuck your hot "friend" or whichever benefit you can prey upon... notice the difference: a type of allegiance or kinship vs. treating people sociopathically as objects and means for your little black heart of putridness

second, look at yourself in the mirror, no, love isnt blind, and to love another you must love yourself first, and if you dont love yourself, chances are you are unhealthy and lack of health can make you unnatractive... i do have personal expectations and taste, but i try to not let it be my core directive, and try to make my decisions based on other qualities.

so please, if you get "friendzoned", perhaps they are way out of your league and you need to take care of yourself more, perhaps its also that. you guys dont really have all that much in common, perhaps your particular appearance might not fit their preferences

the easy and most comftable explanation is that you didnt "play the right moves" or "she only dates assholes", or whatever convinient rationalization you can come up with, but the harsh reality is that you wouldnt be alone if you werent an passive agressive anal "chess master", superficial objectifying vulture that neurotically ratonalizes bullshit instead of investing time in its own health

act humanely and treat others humanely, that should help

YES YES YES

I agree wholeheartedly with all of this. ESPECIALLY THE LAST LINE.

[The Johnny]

another thing to note... "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar"... if you DO insist in objectyfying people, dont be shocked that the same standards are applied to yourself, so you gotta go kill youself in the gym...

related: assholes dont get girls due to being assholes, they get girls because they probably are hot and can get away with being assholes... in other words, it might be a recurrent variable, but that does not make it the causation

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Weird porn on the internet anecdote:

So, when my man's away it's weird internet porn time. Don't fucking judge me, I've got tentacles for a face. Anyway, since I get bored super fast with videos of disinterested people slapping their meat together, I started looking at some of the various flash based porn games running around the internet, and one particular variety speaks deeply to the problem thinking of "no = try again."

Some games will have you meet a bunch of girls and try to worm your way into their pants (the protagonist is invariably male, because the porn industry is idiots). You have a range of things you can say, then options for clicking on body parts or what-have-you, and the girl is either super enthusiastic or admonishes you for getting it wrong. And then lets you choose the right option. Even though you just said something horribly offensive. Or touched her in a way that she was not cool with. Because, you see, women are goldfish.

Worse are the ones that are "difficult" where you only get one chance to get things right and then the option to do things with that character is gone forever. Not because it's less realistic, that's much more like how real people act. No, the problem is that you don't really understand what it is the game wants from you because it's super opaque and you find yourself frustrated staring at the screen thinking "WHERE IS THE BUTTON TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS GIRL?" And then you realize they've tricked you into thinking that you have a right to a vagina, and you have to go take a long shower and think about the mistakes you've made in life.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

another thing to note... "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar"... if you DO insist in objectyfying people, dont be shocked that the same standards are applied to yourself, so you gotta go kill youself in the gym...

related: assholes dont get girls due to being assholes, they get girls because they probably are hot and can get away with being assholes... in other words, it might be a recurrent variable, but that does not make it the causation

Also, girls can be assholes too. Sometimes assholes like assholes.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

No, the problem is that you don't really understand what it is the game wants from you because it's super opaque and you find yourself frustrated staring at the screen thinking "WHERE IS THE BUTTON TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS GIRL?" And then you realize they've tricked you into thinking that you have a right to a vagina, and you have to go take a long shower and think about the mistakes you've made in life.

And this sums up how PUAs think about women, but IN REAL LIFE.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Weird porn on the internet anecdote:

So, when my man's away it's weird internet porn time. Don't fucking judge me, I've got tentacles for a face. Anyway, since I get bored super fast with videos of disinterested people slapping their meat together, I started looking at some of the various flash based porn games running around the internet, and one particular variety speaks deeply to the problem thinking of "no = try again."

Some games will have you meet a bunch of girls and try to worm your way into their pants (the protagonist is invariably male, because the porn industry is idiots). You have a range of things you can say, then options for clicking on body parts or what-have-you, and the girl is either super enthusiastic or admonishes you for getting it wrong. And then lets you choose the right option. Even though you just said something horribly offensive. Or touched her in a way that she was not cool with. Because, you see, women are goldfish.

Worse are the ones that are "difficult" where you only get one chance to get things right and then the option to do things with that character is gone forever. Not because it's less realistic, that's much more like how real people act. No, the problem is that you don't really understand what it is the game wants from you because it's super opaque and you find yourself frustrated staring at the screen thinking "WHERE IS THE BUTTON TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS GIRL?" And then you realize they've tricked you into thinking that you have a right to a vagina, and you have to go take a long shower and think about the mistakes you've made in life.

OH GOD GOGIRA I FUCKING LOVE THIS POST!

i WANT TO X-POST IT OVER ALL THE THINGS.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Do anything you like with it, just don't give me attribution 

[Pergamos]

Friendzone is such a weird concept.  I know men and women do think differently in some respects, I haven't really figured out what those respects are, because the ones where people claim we think differently I tend to find we don't.  There is a giant pile of movies about a woman falling in love with her best friend, it is one of the most prominent plots in romantic comedies and other chick flicks.  I know sex can fuck up a friendship, but I don't know anyone who isn't willing to take that risk if he or she actually wants to have sex with the person in the first place, especcially if he or she wants to have sex with the person fairly badly. 

I have a friend who is one of those "nice guys" who gets put in the "friendzone"  He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

[Doktor Howl]

I have a friend who is one of those "nice guys" who gets put in the "friendzone"  He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

This is often the case.

[Pergamos]

I have a friend who is one of those "nice guys" who gets put in the "friendzone"  He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

This is often the case.

I'm not sure why we are all friends with him, i think maybe because there is some decentness there and we hope that by continually mocking (and occasionally confronting) him he will eventually grow out of it.  So far we have not been successful.

[The Johnny]

I have a friend who is one of those "nice guys" who gets put in the "friendzone"  He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

soooo friendly!!!

[Junkenstein]

I have a friend who is one of those "nice guys" who gets put in the "friendzone"  He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

soooo friendly!!!

This man does not sound like a friend worth having.

[Cain]

People who self-describe as nice guys are universally shitbags. 

That's why people who are actually nice do not go around calling themselves "nice guys".

[Left]

He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

I have a friend who is one of those "nice guys" who gets put in the "friendzone"  He's not really a nice guy.  He tries to guilt female friends into sex, he doesn't bother to keep himself clean or to lose any weight (and he weighs a LOT) and he tried to rape one of our mutual (male) friends in his sleep.

This is often the case.

I'm not sure why we are all friends with him, i think maybe because there is some decentness there and we hope that by continually mocking (and occasionally confronting) him he will eventually grow out of it.  So far we have not been successful.

DTMFA!