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Started by Doktor Howl, June 25, 2013, 04:23:51 AM

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Junkenstein on June 25, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
No.

My problem is that others can read out your conversations and interpret them as they please. This is the exact justification that people are using regarding Prism/Snowden right now. Nothing to hide = Nothing to fear.

There's also many cases recently of Law enforcement encouraging individuals and assisting their acts. I would say it's not unreasonable to speculate that at least one person in that chat room was involved in the investigation. Neither is it unreasonable to think that they lead the conversation in this way and helped give him enough rope to hang himself.

Private fantasies, no matter how disgusting, are private. As long as there is no actual criminal act, I find it hard to condemn someone based on what you think they are thinking. I'm not privy to all the evidence. If he had a diary with "Kill X on Tuesday" then, yeah, fuck him. I just need a little more than creepy chat logs and vague hints about surveillance. If you don't, then I'd advise trying to arrest 4chan and many more ASAP.

Nice to take the Party line though. Maybe when your conversations are deemed inappropriate by the government you might think about this more.

That's been going on since they legalized entrapment - when? The 80's? - look at all the law enforcement posing as guys who want large quantities of drugs, 12 year old girls, hit men, etc...
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Cain

That's being going on since before there were police.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on June 25, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
That's being going on since before there were police.

I thought police, as they exist today, were invented in London in 1830.
Molon Lube

Junkenstein

Cain,Stelz , I'd agree with both of you there.

I was just hoping RWHN would have seen something about, oh, Boston Bombings, Fast and Furious, Stephen Laurence.... and that's just the last couple of things I clicked on. This shit happens daily and it just seems like good sense to question the situation a little in that regard.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

Yes.  I couldn't be bothered to find an earlier example of official provocation however, and for the vast majority of the world in 1900, policing was still a very alien concept.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on June 25, 2013, 07:11:19 PM
Yes.  I couldn't be bothered to find an earlier example of official provocation however, and for the vast majority of the world in 1900, policing was still a very alien concept.

Excellent point.  Forgive my pedantry, there.
Molon Lube

deadfong

Quote from: Junkenstein on June 25, 2013, 10:41:31 AM

QuoteAfter the proceeding, Mr. Valle's mother, Elizabeth Valle, said brusquely: "I'm in shock. His wife perjured herself."

Mr. Valle's wife, Kathleen Mangan-Valle, who was not in the courtroom on Tuesday, had testified that she reported her husband's Internet activities to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, including her discovery that he had considered her as a potential victim.

Not sure where the perjury thing comes from, I couldn't see a mention in the article?

I took that to mean the guy's mother thinks his wife lied on the stand when she said she'd discovered she might be a target.

The article doesn't say what evidence she had that he thought about eating her, though.