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Started by LMNO, June 26, 2013, 06:59:57 PM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Suu on June 28, 2013, 07:07:31 PM
Quote from: Pixie on June 28, 2013, 07:03:55 PM
Quote from: stelz on June 28, 2013, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: Pixie on June 28, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
What bugs me about this is that the reason Roe Vs Wade was even enacted into law was that folks were getting abortions anyway and the results were fucking horrific.

you can't make abortion go away. you just make it more dangerous. And damned if those "pro-life" nuts would help kids orphaned by their moms who cannot afford another kid having an unsafe abortion, or actually giving out free contraception, or sex ed that works to prevent abortion.

fucking assholes.

watch out, sounds suspiciously close to a drug thread...

I don't think we have any pro-lifers here, unless they wandered in from TDS or someplace.

And as far as all the arguments go, I don't even bother with them anymore as a rule. MY PUSSY & UTE IS BELONGS TO ME. NOT RICK PERRY. END OF STORY.

Yea, PD's body has a way of shutting pro-lifer's down.

NEWSFEED THIS SHIT

On it.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: Pixie on June 28, 2013, 07:01:24 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: Pixie on June 28, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
What bugs me about this is that the reason Roe Vs Wade was even enacted into law was that folks were getting abortions anyway and the results were fucking horrific.

you can't make abortion go away. you just make it more dangerous. And damned if those "pro-life" nuts would help kids orphaned by their moms who cannot afford another kid having an unsafe abortion, or actually giving out free contraception, or sex ed that works to prevent abortion.

fucking assholes.

watch out, sounds suspiciously close to a drug thread...

What?

It's the basic drugs arguement.  People are going to do it anyways, making it illegal only makes it dangerous and causes more people to be harmed.

Unfortunately it is a sort of logic that the government seems to be sorely lacking which is why abortion was legalized based on a constitutional right to privacy, not to protect the safety of women.

Um, it was a 9th amendment call, not a 4th amendment call.
Molon Lube

Pope Pixie Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: Pixie on June 28, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
What bugs me about this is that the reason Roe Vs Wade was even enacted into law was that folks were getting abortions anyway and the results were fucking horrific.

you can't make abortion go away. you just make it more dangerous. And damned if those "pro-life" nuts would help kids orphaned by their moms who cannot afford another kid having an unsafe abortion, or actually giving out free contraception, or sex ed that works to prevent abortion.

fucking assholes.

watch out, sounds suspiciously close to a drug thread...

:winner:

Yea, I'm trying not to go full vengeful femi-amazon on the guy, he seems to have misplaced the funny.

Doktor Howl

Well, I'm trying to not go all pedantic on his ass.

Roe v Wade was not based on the right to privacy.  It was based on amendment IX.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Retracting that.  Amendment IX was argued but declined.  It was covered under amendment XIV, equal protection under law.  Privacy was the issue, but not the legal decision.
Molon Lube

Pergamos

Amendment XIV according to wikipedia.  It's not the right against search and seizure, but it is still a right to privacy.  Specifically arising from the due process clause.

Here's the specific quote concerning the 9th amendment, which had been the rationale for a lower court's decision.
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"The Court declined to adopt the district court's Ninth Amendment rationale, and instead asserted that the "right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the district court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy."[23] Douglas, in his concurring opinion in the companion case Doe v. Bolton, stated more emphatically that, "The Ninth Amendment obviously does not create federally enforceable rights."

Doktor Howl

Yeah, I pretty much just said that.
Molon Lube

Pergamos

Yep, anyways, my point was that the safety arguement that Pixie made, although valid, is one that is made in favor of drug legalization without having swayed the arguement much, and it didn't sway the arguement on abortion either, back when abortion was illegal.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
Yep, anyways, my point was that the safety arguement that Pixie made, although valid, is one that is made in favor of drug legalization without having swayed the arguement much, and it didn't sway the arguement on abortion either, back when abortion was illegal.

I see.  Well, then every thread is a drug thread.  Nobody should talk about anything.

PD OVER.  SEE YOU SPAGS ON FACEBOOK.
Molon Lube

Salty

Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
Yep, anyways, my point was that the safety arguement that Pixie made, although valid, is one that is made in favor of drug legalization without having swayed the arguement much, and it didn't sway the arguement on abortion either, back when abortion was illegal.

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Alty on June 28, 2013, 07:53:02 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
Yep, anyways, my point was that the safety arguement that Pixie made, although valid, is one that is made in favor of drug legalization without having swayed the arguement much, and it didn't sway the arguement on abortion either, back when abortion was illegal.

:tyra:

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Ben Shapiro

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 28, 2013, 05:25:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2013, 05:00:12 PM
Quote from: Pixie on June 28, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
What bugs me about this is that the reason Roe Vs Wade was even enacted into law was that folks were getting abortions anyway and the results were fucking horrific.

you can't make abortion go away. you just make it more dangerous. And damned if those "pro-life" nuts would help kids orphaned by their moms who cannot afford another kid having an unsafe abortion, or actually giving out free contraception, or sex ed that works to prevent abortion.

fucking assholes.

The whole point here, Pixie, isn't about the act of abortion.

It's about punishing you dirty, dirty womenfolk for having sex all unregulated and shit.  This is one of two reasons they oppose contraception, as well.

The other reason is that they assume that teenagers will be fucking until they get speed burns, if contraception is made available.  Sort of like how they started butt-chugging by the millions, etc, etc.

But it's mostly the punishment thing.  They WANT women to die in botched abortions, because you're DIRTY AND WRONG because you have bits.

It's because if we control our sex organs, we might not have sex with white  men and pop out white babies.

AND LIKE IT!

Ben Shapiro

Quote from: stelz on June 28, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 28, 2013, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
They've got this big fire hose, see...



From the article:

QuoteHe's a doctor, too.

Maybe it's a GOOD thing they're not letting us have Obamacare.


:(

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Pergamos on June 28, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
Yep, anyways, my point was that the safety arguement that Pixie made, although valid, is one that is made in favor of drug legalization without having swayed the arguement much, and it didn't sway the arguement on abortion either, back when abortion was illegal.

:lulz: did you really just say that without a glimmer of irony? :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

The Suffrage movement didn't do much to sway the argument on women voting, back when it was still illegal for women to vote... :lol:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."