Logal guy is uncooperative at DUI checkpoint. Hilarity ensues.

[Left]

Fuck the Police.

but seriously, how anybody could ever be OK with random checkpoints is utterly beyond me. Those people should move to Germany circa 1938.

I'd rather have Drunk Joe getting stopped and having an overnight stay in lock-up as opposed to plowing into a family sedan full of family.  Public roads are public and thus it is perfectly valid to institute procedures to protect safety on those public roads.

And if Juan gets dragged out of his car and beaten for being the wrong color, well that's just the price we have to pay to keep drunk drivers off the road.  Who wouldn't trade a little liberty for a little security after all?

Well, there's two things there (not just Juan)...
What level of interference in our life do we find acceptable to protect public safety?
And how do we get rid of entrenched racism in law enforcement?

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Here is what I would be cool with: all DUI checkpoints are auto-streamed live to YouTube; any arrests made for anything besides DUI result in immediate jail time for all officers on the scene; absolutely no searches; and the cops must wear clown costumes

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Here is what I would be cool with: all DUI checkpoints are auto-streamed live to YouTube; any arrests made for anything besides DUI result in immediate jail time for all officers on the scene; absolutely no searches; and the cops must wear clown costumes

IN FAVOR.

[Bruno]

They all have to be wearing the same clown costume, though. Otherwise how would people know it wasn't just a bunch of clowns fucking with them.

Rank should be delineated by the size of the shoes.

[AFK]

Fuck the Police.

but seriously, how anybody could ever be OK with random checkpoints is utterly beyond me. Those people should move to Germany circa 1938.

I'd rather have Drunk Joe getting stopped and having an overnight stay in lock-up as opposed to plowing into a family sedan full of family.  Public roads are public and thus it is perfectly valid to institute procedures to protect safety on those public roads.

And if Juan gets dragged out of his car and beaten for being the wrong color, well that's just the price we have to pay to keep drunk drivers off the road.  Who wouldn't trade a little liberty for a little security after all?

If that happens it has nothing to do with the checkpoint and everything to do with the individual racist officer.  Nice strawman though.

[Left]

Here is what I would be cool with: all DUI checkpoints are auto-streamed live to YouTube; any arrests made for anything besides DUI result in immediate jail time for all officers on the scene; absolutely no searches; and the cops must wear clown costumes

I dunno...plenty of people are more afraid of clowns then cops.
I could go for the rest of it though, that's all pretty damn reasonable.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm okay with checkpoints.

But we have police that stay focused on their task.  Not every city is like that.  In fact, I don't know any other city that does.

So, okay, I'm not okay with checkpoints, on account of the need for the police to be doing the right thing without shit like what happened in the video.  After all, there's no guarantee that the Tucson PD will continue acting like bipeds.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I got pulled over in one here, a few years back. Brother filth flagged me down, I pulled over and rolled the window down. He explained what they were doing then told me I could be on my way. Pretty obvious I wasn't wasted. If it happens to me every couple of years then yeah, I'm pretty okay with it.

I'd call it filth doing what I want them to. Catching and deterring people from driving wasted which totally kills innocent bystanders all the time around here.

[Doktor Howl]

I got pulled over in one here, a few years back. Brother filth flagged me down, I pulled over and rolled the window down. He explained what they were doing then told me I could be on my way. Pretty obvious I wasn't wasted. If it happens to me every couple of years then yeah, I'm pretty okay with it.

I'd call it filth doing what I want them to. Catching and deterring people from driving wasted which totally kills innocent bystanders all the time around here.

What if you'd been Pakistani?

[P3nT4gR4m]

Exact same deal round my neck of the woods. Maybe different in other parts but I'm not aware of any racial shit in my area. What might happen is lippy kids winding them up with dogs abuse then they might get heavy handed. Nobody really gives a shit about that though.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

White people are rarely aware of racism, because they don't experience it. Ask some minorities and see what they say about it, that will give you a better idea.

[Pergamos]

Here is what I would be cool with: all DUI checkpoints are auto-streamed live to YouTube; any arrests made for anything besides DUI result in immediate jail time for all officers on the scene; absolutely no searches; and the cops must wear clown costumes

Just auto streaming cop dash cameras to a site would make a huge difference.  Any stop or arrest that is performed off camera is not a legitimate arrest.  This would lead to way less abuse of police powers.

Unfortunately it won't happen.

[hooplala]

Here is what I would be cool with: all DUI checkpoints are auto-streamed live to YouTube; any arrests made for anything besides DUI result in immediate jail time for all officers on the scene; absolutely no searches; and the cops must wear clown costumes

Just auto streaming cop dash cameras to a site would make a huge difference.  Any stop or arrest that is performed off camera is not a legitimate arrest.  This would lead to way less abuse of police powers.

Unfortunately it won't happen.

I agree. It's also my view on surveillance cameras... If it all feeds into some site anyone can access, I am totally fine with it.

[Left]

Here is what I would be cool with: all DUI checkpoints are auto-streamed live to YouTube; any arrests made for anything besides DUI result in immediate jail time for all officers on the scene; absolutely no searches; and the cops must wear clown costumes

Just auto streaming cop dash cameras to a site would make a huge difference.  Any stop or arrest that is performed off camera is not a legitimate arrest.  This would lead to way less abuse of police powers.

Unfortunately it won't happen.

Very unlikely, because Police Unions...

I agree. It's also my view on surveillance cameras... If it all feeds into some site anyone can access, I am totally fine with it.

Um...that would enable stalkers to get their stalk on more easily, methinks.
That's a problem, unless your idea of fun is your evil ex following you around.

[Telarus]

Anyone watching the site would have to submit to a camera feed which goes on the site.