UK Internet Porn Ban.

[Junkenstein]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

Most households in the UK will have pornography blocked by their internet provider unless they choose to receive it, David Cameron has announced.

In addition, the prime minister said possessing online pornography depicting rape would become illegal in England and Wales - in line with Scotland.

Mr Cameron warned in a speech that access to online pornography was "corroding childhood".

The new measures will apply to both existing and new customers.

This is going to get hilarious.

Mr Cameron also called for some "horrific" internet search terms to be "blacklisted", meaning they would automatically bring up no results on websites such as Google or Bing.

He told the BBC he expected a "row" with service providers who, he said in his speech, were "not doing enough to take responsibility" despite having a "moral duty" to do so.

He also warned he could have to "force action" by changing the law and that, if there were "technical obstacles", firms should use their "greatest brains" to overcome them.

This is from the people that could find an effective way to block YO HO HO .com

He said: "I want to talk about the internet, the impact it is having on the innocence of our children, how online pornography is corroding childhood.

"And how, in the darkest corners of the internet, there are things going on that are a direct danger to our children, and that must be stamped out.

I'm not making this speech because I want to moralise or scaremonger, but because I feel profoundly as a politician, and as a father, that the time for action has come. This is, quite simply, about how we protect our children and their innocence."

But former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre boss Jim Gamble told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was important to "get to the root cause" of illegal pornography, by catching those responsible for creating it.

He added: "You need a real deterrent, not a pop-up that paedophiles will laugh at."

But Ms Perry argued filters would make a difference, saying that the killers of schoolgirls April Jones and Tia Sharp had accessed legal pornography before moving on to images of child abuse.

She added: "It's impossible to buy this material in a sex shop... but it's possible to have it served up on a computer every day."

In his speech, Mr Cameron said possession of online pornography depicting rape would be made illegal.

The reaction I've seen to this so far would be pretty much exactly what you'd expect. Conservatives smug, Liberals screeching and very little attention paid to the fact that Cameron has refused to publicly condemn page 3(some tabloids tradition to show topless woman on, page 3.)

The whole thing is a fucking joke. Aside from the censorship issues and lists due to opt-in, it seems totally and utterly unworkable.

So come world, and laugh at the UK. Our PM is actually trying to block boobs from the internet. On the plus side, Tons of MP's are about to have their porn habits exposed.

[The Johnny]

BUT THINK OF THE CHILDURRUN!!1

[Doktor Howl]

England:  Racing back to the 1800s!

FUCK YOU, MARQUIS DE SADE!

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

You know the rules, they take your porn you take their government.

[Cain]

You can ring your internet provider to be excluded from the porn ban...which will no doubt lead to some of the most hilariously awkward phone conversations in all history.

[Doktor Howl]

You can ring your internet provider to be excluded from the porn ban...which will no doubt lead to some of the most hilariously awkward phone conversations in all history.

"I should like to have my lemon party back, please."



I would totally fucking do that, and I don't even like porn.

[Cain]

Of course, that caveat also puts lie to the whole conflation of child porn with legal porn and with sexual abuse of children, which is the alleged argument behind this legislation.

Apparently, porn is so horrible it can drive you to Sexing The Kids, but, if you want to be able to access legal porn, all you have to do is ask your internet provider nicely.

See, this is what happens when you have a moral campaign built on bullshit and scaremongering.  You start contradicting yourself.

[Doktor Howl]

Of course, that caveat also puts lie to the whole conflation of child porn with legal porn and with sexual abuse of children, which is the alleged argument behind this legislation.

Apparently, porn is so horrible it can drive you to Sexing The Kids, but, if you want to be able to access legal porn, all you have to do is ask your internet provider nicely.

See, this is what happens when you have a moral campaign built on bullshit and scaremongering.  You start contradicting yourself.

I thought the argument was that porn was desensitizing kids viewing it.  That lizard you have as PM should be more clear.

[Cain]

That too.

It desensitizes kids into a life of porn based kid-sexing debauchery, as proven by the fact two old perverts who were imprisoned for child rape and murder watched "normal" porn as well as the illegal stuff.

You wont be surprised to learn the Daily Mail played a large role in this whole thing:

https://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Campaign_against_online_porn#Daily_Mail_campaign

[Junkenstein]

The best thing is, the Mail online is pretty fucking dodgy on the whole kiddie porn front.

If I ran a website with some of that content, I'm pretty sure I'd have been arrested at least once.

[Cain]

You mean pictures emphasizing a 15 year old Charlotte Church's breasts are not morally righteous?

[Junkenstein]

I suspect not.

Nor is the best of 13-14 year olds in bikinis.

How those guys are not in jail is a fucking mystery.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There's some stuff about pornography's effect on arousal thresholds and correlations between availability of pornography and acceptance of abusive behavior by males towards females but really I'm too tired and stressed to write about it right now. Not saying I'm in favor of what sounds like a kind of harebrained plan, just that there are actual reasons that it might not be bad to rethink the whole pornography thing. 

[Junkenstein]

Nigel, I suspect this to be very little to do with Porn in actuality. It's seems to be more about control, precedent and vote winning.

Aside from it being unworkable, aside from this guy being News International's bitch, Aside from the fact that what he's making illegal is already illegal.......



Can you not wait to make that phone call?

"I'm trying to see this man and jar and you've blocked me! Make sure I'm seeing the right thing! Watch it with me!"

That job is going to see so much fucked up shit on the internet, I'm almost jealous. Almost.

It occurs to me that it will likely catch some of the more stupid sex offenders like the chap who liked to text people. I suspect the number of folk who will directly ask for something seriously fucking illegal to be unblocked to be likely high enough to justify it's existence and expansion. Probably being paranoid crazy man again. 

[Cain]

The other problem is any filtering system the government wants to build will, inevitably, be used to censor other sites, which have nothing to dow ith porn, legal or illegal in nature.

I mean, does anyone believe that a custom-built, required by law, nationwide internet filtering system isn't going to be used to shut down online piracy, then extremist and terrorist affiliated groups?  And once that happens, it opens the entire internet in the UK into being potentially censored by a future government, for any reason.

Like Binney, the NSA whistleblower says, once the system to filter is in place, it's too late.  It will be expanded.  And there are some notoriously unstable nutters in both Labour and the Tory party.