Ah, Southern Baptists. You stay classy.

[Left]

Um, even if Nigel WAS going to be working one-to-one with people after graduation (my understanding is that she is not), then I'd assume her "bedside manner" would be very different than "discussing things on PD".

...I say this as a mental health consumer who goes through various agencies...
There are a number of people in both psych and medical fields who are perfectly professional...but have disdain, or a presupposition of inferiority for their clientele...and the attitude shines through.

It's not fun to be on the wrong side of the desk of someone who thinks this. 

Not least because such people tend to assume you're a special sort of idiot and disregard what you say, or they don't bother to explain themselves fully, because they believe you're too stupid to grasp it.

I'm sure Nigel's about to go off on me royally for saying anything, but fuck it.

And maybe I'm just totally wrong, of course.

I *think* she measures everyone by the Nigel.
Nigel's obviously very strong, and very smart, and very courageous.
So a lot of people fall short of her.

[Doktor Howl]

a mental health consumer

That's a new phrase on me.

And maybe I'm just totally wrong, of course.

You are.

I *think* she measures everyone by the Nigel.

I think you're nursing some butthurt.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lpWUO0Vc8owJ:amotherthing.com/2012/06/depression-suicide-love-and-redemption/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

It appears, from reading her blog, that she is extremely unstable, an attention whore, and a pathological liar.

From her blog entry:

After my hospitalisation, I was finally diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, which explains my inappropriate anger, my impulsiveness, and my self-harm. There is no cure, there is no real treatment other than talking about it, which I am loathe to do.

About that, she's wrong. DBT seems to work pretty well for borderlines...and doesn't necessarily involve plumbing your neuroses.
I don't know about the pathological liar...Note that her suicide attempt was, well, in the middle of a marriage falling apart.
But I know I would have pressed charges had some asshole messed with my child.
As far as self-injury goes, this is a very good book about the phenomenon:
http://www.amazon.com/Bright-Red-Scream-Self-Mutilation-Language/dp/0140280537

Not asserting a position.
...Noting the judgmental attitude...
You're not going to be working one-on-one with clients when you graduate, right?

Oh, just fuck right off. The "pathological liar" came directly from her blog, where she says it about herself.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm sorry you have had bad experiences, Hylie, but I'll remind you of two things: One, this is not a clinical setting, this is a bunch of people shooting the shit on the internet. Two, yes I was being judgmental: I was judging the likelihood of her blog post about her two-year-old being assaulted by a redneck homophobe in Walmart, and based on the available evidence and her own words, I judged it to be unlikely to be true. That would be an appropriate and correct use of judgment.

And an aside; casting aspersions on another person's professionalism when you clearly know nothing at all about their career goals or personal background just makes you look like an ass with a raft of butthurt you're eager to unload on the first available target. Please don't make comments like that toward me again. You have been asked nicely.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

a mental health consumer

Please, please tell me you're not actually adopting this kind of speech.

Jesus.

I am a Person, not a "Consumer." I am a Citizen, not a "Government Services Customer." I expect to have input into public discourse. To have my voice heard and my vote counted. I am not here just to benefit from or be a victim of public policy. Likewise I am not simply a carbon-based trash can whose sole purpose for existence is the consumption of resources. If, from my admittedly privileged perspective, I can say I am honestly offended by anything in this toxic waste dump we call the 21st Century, it is that I am literally considered (and language now refers to me as) the Human equivalent of a bottom feeder.

Sorry to post so off-topic but this kind of speech really sets me off.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

a mental health consumer

Please, please tell me you're not actually adopting this kind of speech.

Jesus.

I am a Person, not a "Consumer." I am a Citizen, not a "Government Services Customer." I expect to have input into public discourse. To have my voice heard and my vote counted. I am not here just to benefit from or be a victim of public policy. Likewise I am not simply a carbon-based trash can whose sole purpose for existence is the consumption of resources. If, from my admittedly privileged perspective, I can say I am honestly offended by anything in this toxic waste dump we call the 21st Century, it is that I am literally considered (and language now refers to me as) the Human equivalent of a bottom feeder.

Sorry to post so off-topic but this kind of speech really sets me off.

Mental health =/= Cheetos^(tm)

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

All else aside, I am in complete agreement that "mental health consumer" is my all-time least favorite euphemism. I'm pretty OK with good old-fashioned "patient", I find "client" to be perfectly serviceable, and I am fine with "person who uses mental health services", but FFS please, "consumer" in all its permutations makes me think of WHAT THE WORD ACTUALLY MEANS, something that consumes at one end and shits at the other. Gobbling up services and shitting money.

No, thanks.

[AFK]

Technically, in most cases, the consumer is going to be government anyway, as they will often be footing the bill, unless you have a Cadillac insurance plan.  So it's also a term that rarely applies to thr patient, in a purely technical sense. 

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Technically, in most cases, the consumer is going to be government anyway, as they will often be footing the bill, unless you have a Cadillac insurance plan.  So it's also a term that rarely applies to thr patient, in a purely technical sense. 

I think the term "consumer" refers to a person who receives and uses goods or services, not necessarily a person who pays for them. It's still a disgusting term with ugly connotations though, either way.

Also I do not have one of these "Cadillac insurance plans" I keep hearing about, but my plan does cover mental illness up to and including inpatient psychiatric hospitalization. It also pays 100% after my deductible.

[AFK]

Consider yourself lucky.  A lot of plans won't provide adequate coverage.

[Don Coyote]

If it isn't randumb, it's hindend coming along.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Technically, in most cases, the consumer is going to be government anyway, as they will often be footing the bill, unless you have a Cadillac insurance plan.  So it's also a term that rarely applies to thr patient, in a purely technical sense. 

I think the term "consumer" refers to a person who receives and uses goods or services, not necessarily a person who pays for them. It's still a disgusting term with ugly connotations though, either way.

Also I do not have one of these "Cadillac insurance plans" I keep hearing about, but my plan does cover mental illness up to and including inpatient psychiatric hospitalization. It also pays 100% after my deductible.

Yeah, it means "one who consumes", but in the US it is used to mean "buyer" so frequently that in my mind it's really hard to separate the two. I just see a giant mindless intestine with a mouth.

OM NOM NOM NOM
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By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to advise you to never, ever, ever google image search "worm mouth". Just don't do that.

[Cain]

Nicely called, Nigel

http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/

GOMI reports after the Katie Vyktoriah pink headband post went viral:

"Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was 'meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute;' that she missed catching a train that later crashed... Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights."

Pause for a second here to acknowledge everyone on the internet knows someone like this. Continue.

The Orlando Sentinel now reports the mommy blogger was "Baker acted," which we think has something to do with being put away in Florida so you don't do anything to harm yourself or others.

Perhaps most telling is after the mommy blogger (real name Kathleen Carpenter) was released, she told The Ledger that she "doesn't care whether deputies find proof in the Wal-Mart surveillance footage... I don't think it will do any good ... I just want it to go away."

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Nicely called, Nigel

http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/

GOMI reports after the Katie Vyktoriah pink headband post went viral:

"Now removed from her site claims included having survived 3 failed kidnapping attempts and 1 successful one; claiming to be a stewardess for an airline and quitting just weeks before the flight crashed twice in three months; that she was 'meant to be in NYC on 9/11, but I cancelled last minute;' that she missed catching a train that later crashed... Other claims include suffering from Celiac disease, diabetes, lactose intolerance, BPD, manic depression, ADHD, and apparently her breasts are so spectacular they cause bar fights."

Pause for a second here to acknowledge everyone on the internet knows someone like this. Continue.

The Orlando Sentinel now reports the mommy blogger was "Baker acted," which we think has something to do with being put away in Florida so you don't do anything to harm yourself or others.

Perhaps most telling is after the mommy blogger (real name Kathleen Carpenter) was released, she told The Ledger that she "doesn't care whether deputies find proof in the Wal-Mart surveillance footage... I don't think it will do any good ... I just want it to go away."

Now I REALLY feel bad for that kid. 

But Nigel has an ace bullshit detector.

[Doktor Howl]

When Nigel is properly installed, bullshit cannot reach the rotating parts of the equipment.  Failure to install or improper installation of Nigel will result in bullshit reaching the internal components, as well as potentially lethal butthurt on the part of the operations department, heel-digging, and spurious claims of authority from random internet whackadoos.
- From the instruction manual.