How We Protect At-Risk Kids.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

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he has quite the imagination, I'll give him that.

[Doktor Howl]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

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he has quite the imagination, I'll give him that.

Is there a definitive method of diagnosing someone as an alcoholic?  A scientifically-based standard of some kind?  Curious, here.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

You imagine.

Drinking alcohol isn't a crime.  Or are you suggesting that your kids be taken away if you drink a beer while they're asleep?

I tell you what, why don't you read up on how child protective services work, come back, and THEN we can have this discussion.  I'm not going to waste my time until then.

OMG, really? This is the thinnest smokescreen for "I have no idea what I'm talking about" I think I've ever seen.

[Doktor Howl]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

You imagine.

Drinking alcohol isn't a crime.  Or are you suggesting that your kids be taken away if you drink a beer while they're asleep?

I tell you what, why don't you read up on how child protective services work, come back, and THEN we can have this discussion.  I'm not going to waste my time until then.

OMG, really? This is the thinnest smokescreen for "I have no idea what I'm talking about" I think I've ever seen.

C_A at TCC comes to mind, yes?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

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he has quite the imagination, I'll give him that.

Is there a definitive method of diagnosing someone as an alcoholic?  A scientifically-based standard of some kind?  Curious, here.

There are guidelines but it's basically subjective. Which is why no child ever is taken from parents "because they're alcoholics"... there has to be actual neglect or abuse to go along with the drinking, because simply drinking a lot of alcohol is not illegal.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

You imagine.

Drinking alcohol isn't a crime.  Or are you suggesting that your kids be taken away if you drink a beer while they're asleep?

I tell you what, why don't you read up on how child protective services work, come back, and THEN we can have this discussion.  I'm not going to waste my time until then.

OMG, really? This is the thinnest smokescreen for "I have no idea what I'm talking about" I think I've ever seen.

C_A at TCC comes to mind, yes?

Totally.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

RWHN, I just want to remind you that policies you support caused this child's death.

Congratulations, you're a baby-killer.

[Doktor Howl]

There are guidelines but it's basically subjective. Which is why no child ever is taken from parents "because they're alcoholics"... there has to be actual neglect or abuse to go along with the drinking, because simply drinking a lot of alcohol is not illegal.

Well, based on RWHN's model, he could technically have his kids taken away for having his "monthly beer".

Seriously, though, the story in the OP has to make him happy.  I mean, that's one more kid that is not at risk with respect to marijuana.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There are guidelines but it's basically subjective. Which is why no child ever is taken from parents "because they're alcoholics"... there has to be actual neglect or abuse to go along with the drinking, because simply drinking a lot of alcohol is not illegal.

Well, based on RWHN's model, he could technically have his kids taken away for having his "monthly beer".

Seriously, though, the story in the OP has to make him happy.  I mean, that's one more kid that is not at risk with respect to marijuana.

No doubt he sees it as "unfortunate collateral damage" or something equally reprehensible.

[AFK]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

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he has quite the imagination, I'll give him that.

Is there a definitive method of diagnosing someone as an alcoholic?  A scientifically-based standard of some kind?  Curious, here.

There are guidelines but it's basically subjective. Which is why no child ever is taken from parents "because they're alcoholics"... there has to be actual neglect or abuse to go along with the drinking, because simply drinking a lot of alcohol is not illegal.

You are incorrect.  Treatment providers have evidence-based, research tested assessment protocols for determining when someone has alcohol dependency. 

[AFK]

RWHN, I just want to remind you that policies you support caused this child's death.

Congratulations, you're a baby-killer.

Where have I ever said I support shitty Foster care systems?

Congratulations, you are (still) an idiot.

[AFK]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

You imagine.

Drinking alcohol isn't a crime.  Or are you suggesting that your kids be taken away if you drink a beer while they're asleep?

I tell you what, why don't you read up on how child protective services work, come back, and THEN we can have this discussion.  I'm not going to waste my time until then.

I tell YOU what...How about you kiss my ass until blisters form on your lips? 

Sorry, I will be a little tied up tonight, and she's really not into threesomes.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

You imagine.

Drinking alcohol isn't a crime.  Or are you suggesting that your kids be taken away if you drink a beer while they're asleep?

I tell you what, why don't you read up on how child protective services work, come back, and THEN we can have this discussion.  I'm not going to waste my time until then.

I tell YOU what...How about you kiss my ass until blisters form on your lips? 

Sorry, I will be a little tied up tonight, and she's really not into threesomes.

Gotta burn off that extra energy from your one cup a day addiction huh?

[Doktor Howl]

You are incorrect.  Treatment providers have evidence-based, research tested assessment protocols for determining when someone has alcohol dependency.

Let's see it.

[Doktor Howl]

Yes, incidental.  I imagine the kid would have been taken away if they had both been alcoholics.  (alcohol being a legal drug).  The system in Texas is the issue here.  It has nothing to do with pot.

You imagine.

Drinking alcohol isn't a crime.  Or are you suggesting that your kids be taken away if you drink a beer while they're asleep?

I tell you what, why don't you read up on how child protective services work, come back, and THEN we can have this discussion.  I'm not going to waste my time until then.

I tell YOU what...How about you kiss my ass until blisters form on your lips? 

Sorry, I will be a little tied up tonight, and she's really not into threesomes.

I didn't invite her.