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Started by Cramulus, August 15, 2013, 03:57:53 PM

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Cramulus

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HATE.

ZOMG like, literally, right?

:lulz:  :crankey:  I just...  So much.  So much :wail: :argh!: :stabbydeathkill:

I'm laughing, but mostly at how twisted people get when language changes.

If you listen to how people talk in 2013, yes, this is one of the meanings of "literally". That doesn't cancel the previous definition, it expands it. This process has happened at some point to most of the words in our language.

It's the same dance with AAVE (african american vernacular English, sometimes called "Ebonics") -- are AAVE speakers just speaking English wrong? or does that grammar and usage represent a legitimate dialect? For some reason, people get very hostile about this issue.  :lol:


Cain

It's LITERALLY wrong.

Just like you, Cram.

Suu

Language as a whole is very dynamic, and I accept that. Though "literally" is one of my pet peeves. Along with the Oxford Comma and using foreign words to mean something completely different in English, such as "uber." Uber is a German preposition that means "above." I can see how it was turned into a superlative, but...GAAAAAH.

Oh, oh, oh...and "decimate." :cranky:
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Quote from: Suu on August 15, 2013, 04:11:49 PM
Oh, oh, oh...and "decimate." :cranky:

Yeah, that one gets my back up.
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Pope Pixie Pickle

when peeps type loose instead of lose. MAKES ME SOSOSOSMAD

However being a comma fucker is  potentially mean to those who have a learning disability like dyslexia and such and if I can actually parse it i leave the pedantry to other assholes.

If I can't understand it I just move on.

Cramulus

though I can't reconcile my rage when people say things like "ATM Machine". WHAT IS THAT, A MACHINE WHICH DISPENSES ATMS?



It's weird -- the concept that a word can have a proper spelling and definition was invented somewhere around 1450. Before the printing press, there was no notion of a word being "spelled wrong". All words were in flux for for most of our linguistic history. When they started printing books, it solidified things.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cramulus on August 15, 2013, 04:21:22 PM
though I can't reconcile my rage when people say things like "ATM Machine". WHAT IS THAT, A MACHINE WHICH DISPENSES ATMS?



It's weird -- the concept that a word can have a proper spelling and definition was invented somewhere around 1450. Before the printing press, there was no notion of a word being "spelled wrong". All words were in flux for for most of our linguistic history. When they started printing books, it solidified things.

What's funny is that most words had an accepted spelling by the 1700s.  Our forefathers were just illiterate.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

I think its really REALLY annoying when people misuse apostrophe's. I mean... didnt you're school ever teach you anything at all? Learn how to English, FF'S.
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P3nT4gR4m

They called it "English"

Fuck'em

Gloves r off  :argh!:

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 15, 2013, 04:28:31 PM
They called it "English"

Fuck'em

Gloves r off  :argh!:

What could they do?  It's the only spoken language in the UK.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

I don't give a rats bollock. They called it "English" then they insisted I was taught to speak and think it. Then, to add insult to injury, they refer to it as "the queens"

This is the point where it became my lifes work to fuck with the shit at every available opportunity. LITTERLY!

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 15, 2013, 04:31:59 PM
I don't give a rats bollock. They called it "English" then they insisted I was taught to speak and think it. Then, to add insult to injury, they refer to it as "the queens"

And this is a problem...why?

I mean, you can't be pissed that it's not called "Scottish", because you don't believe in government.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I get annoyed when people seem to literally make no effort to try to make their written language make sense to the reader.

I also get annoyed by needless pedantry. SO FUCKING ANNOYED.

My best friend is a brilliant woman, highly articulate, an excellent and prolific writer, and is also a notoriously bad speller. Whatevs, man. We all know what she's trying to convey with her use of language, and the editor can sort out her spelling.

Also, this conversation reminds me of Pergamos getting annoyed with the various and sundry contextual definitions of the word "minority" and declaring that any that don't fit his pre-existing understanding of the word are just made-up jargon.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

The misuse of the apostrophe is one of the few things that brings me joy in life. Don't step.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I do have to say that my FAVORITE, I mean I get actual glee-shivers that make my nipples go hard when this happens, is when people invoke etymology to defend or decry a definition based merely on a phonetic similarity to other words, without actually first looking up the etymology.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."