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Re: Anybody know something about OBE / Astral yadda yadda?
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2013, 09:59:41 pm »
As for TGRR - he seems to suffer from post trollmatic stress disorder and cockholm syndrome...... I am always grateful for more data on the rueful state of human culture and intelligence. Luckily I am wearing my Anti-Troll Spray™ today!  :fap:

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I figure the put on the Apple board because while this cites a scientific paper, its discusses an innovation in a technique that was traditionally used in mystical traditions and is thousands of years old.

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Admittedly I could have been more elaborate in explaining my position, but really I cannot understand how Discordians could be so seemingly afraid of a word - which might have been abused by a number of idiots - but still has such wonderful poetic and historical meaning that its a shame to drop it from our vocabulary just because 'its unscientific'.

I know some guys at the institute for intelligent design that would agree with that line of thinking.

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If we let stupidity on the part of others restrict on semantics we might as well opt to switching to klingon (although even this choice is questionable). I don't have to urge to create a strict conceptual separation between the rigor of science and the elegance of mystical metaphor - I can bridge both with out a problem (cf. the Non-Dualism of Disciplinary Distinction).

And there's the problem.  I am hopelessly mired in Cartesian Duality.

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In the spirit of Hagbard's heuristic of 'True communication is only possible between Equals', would it not be nice to have the null-hypothesis in the average social encounter be intelligence? Could we not be Competent until proven Idiotic? Could we not rule out differing semantics and syntax as a cause for disagreement before assuming a conceptual conflict? Probably not, on the internet. I have my ideas about why (what an ironic paradox that what should have been our most powerful tool became our greatest weakness....)

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Re: Anybody know something about OBE / Astral yadda yadda?
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2013, 10:00:29 pm »

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Ixxie, just don't say I didn't warn you  :p

Are you trying to say something, Professor?  That I am perhaps not the most accepting person in the whole world?

I am shocked and offended.
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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2013, 10:13:26 pm »
I think my biggest problem with MYSTICAL stuff is that it is the epitome of looking at the world the way you WANT it to be, not the way it actually IS. 

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Re: Anybody know something about OBE / Astral yadda yadda?
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2013, 12:29:21 am »
http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/08/26/1513215/synchronized-virtual-reality-heartbeat-triggers-out-of-body-experiences

I bet this would be great with a little Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation, and maybe some shamboiling and/or jenkem.

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Re: Anybody know something about OBE / Astral yadda yadda?
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2013, 12:33:36 am »
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He might require a dose of the PD-style Discordia, but he's good people so please give it to him slowly ;-)
Ruins the effect.  It's like being run over by a steamroller.  Slowly is WORSE.

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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2013, 01:50:24 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2013, 01:53:07 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

Well, he IS Belgian...
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2013, 01:59:32 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

Well, he IS Belgian...

Yeah but so is Waffles. But he is Northest Belgianese...
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2013, 02:00:18 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

Well, he IS Belgian...

Yeah but so is Waffles. But he is Northest Belgianese...

Waffles is a special case.  He's like one of those Rottweilers that eat babies.
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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2013, 02:21:25 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

Well, he IS Belgian...

Yeah but so is Waffles. But he is Northest Belgianese...

Waffles is a special case.  He's like one of those Rottweilers that eat babies.

 :lol:
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« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2013, 02:39:21 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

He seems fine

mostly so far I just ignore him because all he's posted has been drugs and woo. I wasn't even going to look at this thread for that reason.

As long as he keeps his woo out of my threads and doesn't post anything flashy I probably won't Be a Bad Person at him.
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2013, 02:51:47 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

He seems fine

mostly so far I just ignore him because all he's posted has been drugs and woo. I wasn't even going to look at this thread for that reason.

As long as he keeps his woo out of my threads and doesn't post anything flashy I probably won't Be a Bad Person at him.

The one thing I have is that he seems to be missing my points here and there, for example, my confusion with him trying to fit Zoroastrian duality in with Discordian duality, and that I don't necessarily approve of patchwork spirituality if the pieces don't fit.
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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2013, 02:52:51 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

He seems fine

mostly so far I just ignore him because all he's posted has been drugs and woo. I wasn't even going to look at this thread for that reason.

As long as he keeps his woo out of my threads and doesn't post anything flashy I probably won't Be a Bad Person at him.

The one thing I have is that he seems to be missing my points here and there, for example, my confusion with him trying to fit Zoroastrian duality in with Discordian duality, and that I don't necessarily approve of patchwork spirituality if the pieces don't fit.

He's European.  Their entire culture is patchwork.  You have to make allowances.
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2013, 03:00:12 am »
Ixxie does seem like a pretty weird guy but if you, Cram and regret think he's an alright dude, I'll adjust to his oddness, and try to figure out where he's coming from.

ETA: I've had no reason to dislike him so far.

He seems fine

mostly so far I just ignore him because all he's posted has been drugs and woo. I wasn't even going to look at this thread for that reason.

As long as he keeps his woo out of my threads and doesn't post anything flashy I probably won't Be a Bad Person at him.

The one thing I have is that he seems to be missing my points here and there, for example, my confusion with him trying to fit Zoroastrian duality in with Discordian duality, and that I don't necessarily approve of patchwork spirituality if the pieces don't fit.

He's European.  Their entire culture is patchwork.  You have to make allowances.

Fair point.
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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2013, 06:05:39 am »
I think I will like it here.

I will concede on TGRR's points, but they don't have much baring as far as I am concerned. Sure I will grant everybody has the right to behave in any way they want, but not everybody chooses to stay in the lowest denominator (although that is a holy place to be of course).

Aloha - I was not trying to fit Zoroasterism in with Discordianism - I wrote explicitly I know almost nothing about it and what I did hear of it made me think it was Dualistic. I believe I was corrected on that point.

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