Trigger warning: Drugs

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

why am I still talking I am clearly an idiot.

There can be more than one baboon in the room.   

DOUR,
OOOOOK!

Yeah, I am giving myself one baboon point for every post I make that tries to present a logical point or examine fact in this thread, because OOK OOOK.

I went back and looked, and EVERY POST RWHN made basically said "I TOLD YOU GUYS MAKING WEED LEGAL WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO GET!  I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG", even though nobody has ever actually said that weed is just as easy to buy while illegal.

Every last post.

It's sort of horrormirthy.  A human being so insanely butthurt that he actually can't function.

I don't even.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Is it time for cookies again?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

why am I still talking I am clearly an idiot.

There can be more than one baboon in the room.   

DOUR,
OOOOOK!

Yeah, I am giving myself one baboon point for every post I make that tries to present a logical point or examine fact in this thread, because OOK OOOK.

I went back and looked, and EVERY POST RWHN made basically said "I TOLD YOU GUYS MAKING WEED LEGAL WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO GET!  I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG", even though nobody has ever actually said that weed is just as easy to buy while illegal.

Every last post.

It's sort of horrormirthy.  A human being so insanely butthurt that he actually can't function.

I think what he's implying is that it would be more available to children if it were legal, which I don't think is the case. It was easier to score weed than beer on average, because good luck finding an adult that would buy it for you. Usually you'd have to have a friend who was 21, maybe 22, because they can sympathize. It would never be anything quality either though, like a microbrew, because that sort of thing was generally too expensive for a group of 18 year olds to want to get, so it was usually 30 packs of Busch, which while not particularly tasty will get you drunk, and there will be a sufficient amount of it to let all of your friends get drunk too.

The other end of that too is that $15 worth of beer isn't the same as $15 worth of weed.

The main difference is that $15 worth of beer is 100% available to an adult over the age of 21, whereas the availability of weed to an adult is likely the same as availability to a minor, possibly even less so, since after 21 why would you risk getting arrested if you can just grab some wine or vodka, or idunno, walk into a restaurant and order a few glasses of something with dinner?

[AFK]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

That availability has to be qualified though. Is it more available to minors or people who have attained their majority age? Why would you want to prevent an adult from purchasing being able to buy some weed if that's what they want to do?

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

I feel like the motorcycle missed you.

[AFK]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

That availability has to be qualified though. Is it more available to minors or people who have attained their majority age?

Both, because, for example, as with alcohol, we know the latter will supply the former. 

Why would you want to prevent an adult from purchasing being able to buy some weed if that's what they want to do?

I don't WANT to, but I also don't want to increase availability to minors.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

That availability has to be qualified though. Is it more available to minors or people who have attained their majority age?

Both, because, for example, as with alcohol, we know the latter will supply the former. 

Why would you want to prevent an adult from purchasing being able to buy some weed if that's what they want to do?

I don't WANT to, but I also don't want to increase availability to minors.

My evidence, while anecdotal, suggests otherwise. I don't want kids smoking weed either, but it doesn't seem reasonable to limit an adult's access because a few of them will turn around and give it to teens.

But as Nigel said, we'll see in about a year.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I would also posit that it would be safer for a kid to get regulated weed from a misguided adult about to go into a head shop than from a drug dealer and maybe have it laced.

I've had laced shit before, and that's not fun. Well, it was once, only because I started tripping. That other time when I thought I was dead wasn't.

[AFK]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

That availability has to be qualified though. Is it more available to minors or people who have attained their majority age?

Both, because, for example, as with alcohol, we know the latter will supply the former. 

Why would you want to prevent an adult from purchasing being able to buy some weed if that's what they want to do?

I don't WANT to, but I also don't want to increase availability to minors.

My evidence, while anecdotal, suggests otherwise. I don't want kids smoking weed either, but it doesn't seem reasonable to limit an adult's access because a few of them will turn around and give it to teens.

But as Nigel said, we'll see in about a year.

Do you think it is only a few supplying minors with alcohol?  Keeping in mind that a 20 year old is a minor and a 21 year old is an adult.  You suppose that the 21 year olds who are buying weed are all saying no to their 20 year old and 19 year old friends?  Of course not. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

So people would keep jamming MPVD into themselves. 

Well done.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Do you think it is only a few supplying minors with alcohol?

You drink alcohol. 

Smells like "do as I say, not as I do".

[AFK]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

So people would keep jamming MPVD into themselves. 

Well done.

The prevalence of synthetic cannabinoid use is nowhere near the prevalence of natural cannabinoid use.  It isn't, on balance, being used as an alternative.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

So people would keep jamming MPVD into themselves. 

Well done.

The prevalence of synthetic cannabinoid use is nowhere near the prevalence of natural cannabinoid use.  It isn't, on balance, being used as an alternative.

You keep saying that, but all the actual available data says exactly the opposite thing.

And you can keep on saying it, but as long as it's just you spouting vs actual data, well, nobody's going to listen.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It's either more available or it isn't.  The prevailing opinion here seems to be that it would be more available.  Which is precisely why I don't want it legalised.

That availability has to be qualified though. Is it more available to minors or people who have attained their majority age?

Both, because, for example, as with alcohol, we know the latter will supply the former. 

Why would you want to prevent an adult from purchasing being able to buy some weed if that's what they want to do?

I don't WANT to, but I also don't want to increase availability to minors.

My evidence, while anecdotal, suggests otherwise. I don't want kids smoking weed either, but it doesn't seem reasonable to limit an adult's access because a few of them will turn around and give it to teens.

But as Nigel said, we'll see in about a year.

Do you think it is only a few supplying minors with alcohol?  Keeping in mind that a 20 year old is a minor and a 21 year old is an adult.  You suppose that the 21 year olds who are buying weed are all saying no to their 20 year old and 19 year old friends?  Of course not.

Those 21 year olds eventually become 23 year olds and those 18 year olds eventually become 20 year olds.

Did you ever drink as a minor? Serious question.