Trigger warning: Drugs

[Salty]

God I hope some internet random find this thread someday.

[Junkenstein]

These drug threads will all be used as evidence against you all during the forthcoming Unpleasantness.

Best of luck with that.

[Salty]

These drug threads will all be used as evidence against you all during the forthcoming Unpleasantness.

Best of luck with that.

I feel comfortable in my position.

That weed I found was seriously good.

It's all gone now. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

End result: 26 quarts of pickles, 16 vinegar cured and 10 lactic-acid cured.

Nice!
Now i want pickles.

They're pretty great. My kitchen smells like pickles.

The thing that's amazing about them is that I basically just acquired a year's worth of pickles for $25 and about two hours light work. I mean, they came out to less than a dollar a jar and there just wasn't that much labor involved.

Wanna bet the supply won't last a whole year? You will have eaten them all in half a year.

That might be a pretty safe bet, especially with the lactic acid pickles which have a richer, earthier YUM EAT ME kind of allure. It would be completely possible for a household of five to go through a jar a week.

Which will teach me to make twice as many next year!

So far the fermentation is going swimmingly, and the newly-dubbed pickle cabinet (also sometimes used for pies) smells like pickles.

On the subject of cheap food: I have a garden full of cherry tomatoes. What do?
I am already planning on making soup, making and freezing large amounts of tomato paste and just eating them like candy.

I like to dry cherry tomatoes and use them later in sauces and soups, etc. but they are also delightful canned with chili peppers and used later as a dressing for pork roast and the like. Or just canned plain to use however you like later.

[Reginald Ret]

Thanks for the tips, guys!
My mouth is watering at the thought of all the delicious things i can do with my tomatoes. I especially like your oven candied tomatoes, Alty.

[AFK]

Tomatoes are disgusting, they should be banned!

[Reginald Ret]

Tomatoes are disgusting, they should be banned!

Uhm, they already are fucking with selling of gardengrown vegetables.There is a specific list of accepted seeds you can sell and all of them are owned by large companies (Monsanto and friends). On top of that, selling what grows in your garden is going to be heavily taxed to the point that it is not worth it. afaik there still isn't a law against giving strawberries away, but that probably won't be long. Wait, strawberries have seeds on them, nevermind. that would be breaking that stupid EU law they are working on.
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2013/04/eu_gaat_uw_moestuin_bombardere.html
And their source:
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2013/04/23/eu-will-anbau-von-obst-und-gemuese-in-gaerten-verbieten/
No, i don't have any english links, on account of it being the middle of the night and i need to go get some sleep.

[Salty]

 

Tomatoes, especially cherry tomatoes, are super gross to me. Plus I love hyperbole.

So much common ground ITT. Where's that group hug?

[AFK]

Tomatoes are disgusting, they should be banned!

Uhm, they already are fucking with selling of gardengrown vegetables.There is a specific list of accepted seeds you can sell and all of them are owned by large companies (Monsanto and friends). On top of that, selling what grows in your garden is going to be heavily taxed to the point that it is not worth it. afaik there still isn't a law against giving strawberries away, but that probably won't be long. Wait, strawberries have seeds on them, nevermind. that would be breaking that stupid EU law they are working on.
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2013/04/eu_gaat_uw_moestuin_bombardere.html
And their source:
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2013/04/23/eu-will-anbau-von-obst-und-gemuese-in-gaerten-verbieten/
No, i don't have any english links, on account of it being the middle of the night and i need to go get some sleep.

Wait, isn't that good?  I'd rather get regulated product than some stuff you get from some guy on the street.

[AFK]

Tomatoes, especially cherry tomatoes, are super gross to me. Plus I love hyperbole.

So much common ground ITT. Where's that group hug?

Fuck off hippy!

[AFK]

SURPRISE!! PROHIBITION!!

Nobody expects the Spanish Prohibition!

[Reginald Ret]

Tomatoes are disgusting, they should be banned!

Uhm, they already are fucking with selling of gardengrown vegetables.There is a specific list of accepted seeds you can sell and all of them are owned by large companies (Monsanto and friends). On top of that, selling what grows in your garden is going to be heavily taxed to the point that it is not worth it. afaik there still isn't a law against giving strawberries away, but that probably won't be long. Wait, strawberries have seeds on them, nevermind. that would be breaking that stupid EU law they are working on.
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2013/04/eu_gaat_uw_moestuin_bombardere.html
And their source:
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2013/04/23/eu-will-anbau-von-obst-und-gemuese-in-gaerten-verbieten/
No, i don't have any english links, on account of it being the middle of the night and i need to go get some sleep.

Wait, isn't that good?  I'd rather get regulated product than some stuff you get from some guy on the street.

Seed diversity decline must urgently be stopped!
Open letter

to the Members of the European Parliament to the Commissioner for Health and Consumer Protection to the Commissioner for Agriculture and Rural Development to the Commissioner for the Environment to the Commissioner for Employment, Social Affairs and Inclusion to the Commissioner for Industry and Entrepreneurship to the Commissioner for Development to the Commissioner for Regional Policy

Review of the EU legislation on the Marketing of Seed and Plant Propagating Material (S&PM)

Dear Madam/Sir,
We write to you to urge you to take the single opportunity to enhance the EU legislation on Seed and Plant Propagating Material and make it more respectful towards the environment, consumers´ expectations and the needs of small actors in the seed chain.
A change is badly needed, as the current legislation has contributed to a massive loss of biodiversity in European agriculture over the last decades. The legislation disproportionately discriminated against actors in the seed sector that have objectives that go beyond productivity, and it has restricted consumers´ choice in accessing diverse varieties.
Therefore, the review must be rebalanced. Protecting and increasing agricultural biodiversity has to become the first goal of the review. Offering seed users a greater choice of varieties, including seeds most adapted to local conditions would help, in relation with appropriate agricultural practices such as crop rotation, to reduce dependency on pesticides, fertilisers and water demand. This would lead to less pollution of soil and water and therefore contribute to a more sustainable and diversified agriculture, which in turn would enhance the diversity of wild plants, animals and micro-organisms.
Encouraging on farm biodiversity of cultivated plants will enhance the number of varieties grown for food and feed and contribute positively to food quality by enhancing choice, colour and taste. As the Commission assessed in its "Options and Analysis" paper, there is growing demand for a greater choice of varieties: "Protection of the environment has become more important and specific markets, such as for organic crops, are increasing their share of the market". (1)
However, today ten multinationals are controlling 74% of the global seed market (2) and the concentration process is still going on. Many of those companies provide genetically narrow varieties and seeds that cannot be reproduced, leading to alarming dependency for farmers and consumers on one hand and ecological risks connected to genetic uniformity such as poor pest resilience on the other hand.
A change in EU S&PM legislation towards less restrictive requirements that allows for easier market access will increase the number of suppliers and stabilise the amount of SMEs, with indirect positive effects on biodiversity and employment in rural areas.
Representing civil society as organisations working on environment and biodiversity issues including actors from the seed sector like small and organic breeders, suppliers, farmers, gardeners, seed savers, consumer cooperatives and consumers, we call on you to take a stand for an environmentally and consumer friendly S&PM regulation. This must allow for the marketing of less homogenous, but genetically broader and better locally adapted varieties, and remove obstacles to the marketing and the exchange of seeds of old, rare and farmers´ varieties, to enhance diversity and sustainability in European agriculture and better meet consumers´ demands.
Consumers´ safety and plant health related precautions can be ensured by clear provisions regarding transparency. Further pre-market requirements will not only lead to the above mentioned negative effects for biodiversity and food consumers, but will also lead to overlap and confusion regarding food and plant health laws.
For all the above reasons, the review of the legislation on the Marketing of Seed and Plant Propagating Material must rebalance the regulation towards more consumer and environmentally friendly rules, allowing for the reuse, exchange and selling of old, rare and farmers´ varieties and leading to diversification in agriculture. We have concrete proposals to achieve these goals and would be available to discuss these ideas with you in the coming weeks and months.
(1) European Commission: Options and analysis of possible scenarios for the review of the European Union legislation on the marketing of seed and plant propagating material" - Point 2.2: Room to strengthen sustainability issues. (2) ETC Group Report "Who will control the Green Economy", 15 December 2011
Yours sincerely,

Regret and a lot of other silly hippies.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It's more than a little alarming to me that they are legislating against the unfettered distribution of food plants and seeds. Restricting access to FOOD PLANTS... <shudder>

[Reginald Ret]

It's more than a little alarming to me that they are legislating against the unfettered distribution of food plants and seeds. Restricting access to FOOD PLANTS... <shudder>

But those plants have not been approved by the EU! They might contain The Cancer or The Aids! You could maybe get Leprosy from eating wild strawberries instead of huge snotty tasteless "normal" strawberries! Do you want to take that risk? OF COURSE NOT! Would someone think of the children?!

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/02/new-zealand-drug-law_n_3696809.html

New New Zealand law to legalize and regulate synthetic drugs.