Unlimited Higher Education Thread

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.

I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.

No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.

The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/

I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.

Sounds more like ignorance.

There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1.  Actual intelligence.
2.  Education.
3.  Experience.

You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.

And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.

Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.

[Suu]

I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.

I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.

No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.

The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/

I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.

Sounds more like ignorance.

There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1.  Actual intelligence.
2.  Education.
3.  Experience.

You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.

And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.

Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.

Despite the fact that my mother constantly told me I was born 40 years old, that's not what I meant. I think the fact that this time around I am seeing more disruption and lack of respect than I did 13 years ago. Does that make the students bad students? Probably not, they have the same attitudes most 20 year olds have, but now I just find the apathy grating. I also went to an expensive art college, not a large public university, so yeah, experiences will vary. I've always been very studious, but I'm not flawless. I dislike auditorium classes for this reason.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.

I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.

No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.

The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/

I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.

Sounds more like ignorance.

There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1.  Actual intelligence.
2.  Education.
3.  Experience.

You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.

And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.

Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.

Despite the fact that my mother constantly told me I was born 40 years old, that's not what I meant. I think the fact that this time around I am seeing more disruption and lack of respect than I did 13 years ago. Does that make the students bad students? Probably not, they have the same attitudes most 20 year olds have, but now I just find the apathy grating. I also went to an expensive art college, not a large public university, so yeah, experiences will vary. I've always been very studious, but I'm not flawless. I dislike auditorium classes for this reason.

1.  Balls, when I was your age, we'd mug the fucking professor half way through the lecture.

2.  I suppose those kids should have gone to an expensive art college.

Go back and read what you wrote as if someone else wrote it.  I think you'll be appalled.

[Don Coyote]

why does it really matter where he came from?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

why does it really matter where he came from?

Who?

[Don Coyote]

why does it really matter where he came from?

Who?

Columbus.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

why does it really matter where he came from?

Who?

Columbus.

Oh, that's in Ohio.  Duh.

[Golden Applesauce]

Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?

I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c

Am I?

Probably not.

But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.

I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;

Identities: short of using crazy mnemonic tricks, you really can't memorize all of the trig identities. Fortunately, all you have to remember is how to draw a circle, that a2 + b2 = c2, that cosine goes sideways and sine goes up and down, and that their derivatives are each other except one of them has the sign flipped. If you understand how they all fit together, you can derive whatever you need on the fly, even on a test scenario.  Somewhere around the 2nd - 3rd semester of calculus you'll be able to remember the identities you use all the time, which will be all of the important ones.

Essays: Are you doing essays for AP tests? Those aren't real essays - you just need to mention all the things on the grading rubric, so practice  ignoring the question and writing random strings of facts. Pretend you're a partisan on an interview - your goal is to hit as many campaign talking points as humanly possible.

If you are doing real essays, read essays. Op-eds are fine, as are bloggers with axes to grind, old religious/philosophical argumentative types, some forum posts here, whatever. Most of the essays you read will be shit. Understand that, understand why they're shit, and then don't do those things. You probably have a bunch of really unhelpful textbooks - find one good textbook as a point of reference, and then use that to figure the difference between something explained well and something explained poorly.

Case studies: ditto. Read some case studies and do what they do. They're commonly found in documentaries, especially documentaries that are dolled up advertising. If the argument is "X totally works! Here's one time it worked, and now I'm going to spend three hours talking about that one time it worked because I can't find any other examples" it's probably a case study.

[Suu]

I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.

I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.

No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.

The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/

I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.

Sounds more like ignorance.

There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1.  Actual intelligence.
2.  Education.
3.  Experience.

You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.

And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.

Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.

Despite the fact that my mother constantly told me I was born 40 years old, that's not what I meant. I think the fact that this time around I am seeing more disruption and lack of respect than I did 13 years ago. Does that make the students bad students? Probably not, they have the same attitudes most 20 year olds have, but now I just find the apathy grating. I also went to an expensive art college, not a large public university, so yeah, experiences will vary. I've always been very studious, but I'm not flawless. I dislike auditorium classes for this reason.

1.  Balls, when I was your age, we'd mug the fucking professor half way through the lecture.

2.  I suppose those kids should have gone to an expensive art college.

Go back and read what you wrote as if someone else wrote it.  I think you'll be appalled.

This is what I get for operating on several doses of narcotics while trying to PD. 

I'll be back when this shit is over.

[cris]

Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?

I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c

Am I?

Probably not.

But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.

I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;

If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.

Im taking college classes in a public high school setting.

But, I'll bitch about it anyways.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?

I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c

Am I?

Probably not.

But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.

I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;

If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.

Im taking college classes in a public high school setting.

But, I'll bitch about it anyways.

You can bitch.

I am nonetheless going to tell you that using a college textbook in a high-school class, taught by a high-school teacher, is going to be absolutely NOTHING like a college class, taught by a college professor.

The reason I am going to tell you that is because it's true, and because I want you to not get discouraged about college, because it's very different from and a lot more fun than high school. The ethic, teaching methods, and the way students are treated are just completely different.

[Don Coyote]

Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?

I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c

Am I?

Probably not.

But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.

I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;

If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.

Im taking college classes in a public high school setting.

But, I'll bitch about it anyways.

You can bitch.

I am nonetheless going to tell you that using a college textbook in a high-school class, taught by a high-school teacher, is going to be absolutely NOTHING like a college class, taught by a college professor.

The reason I am going to tell you that is because it's true, and because I want you to not get discouraged about college, because it's very different from and a lot more fun than high school. The ethic, teaching methods, and the way students are treated are just completely different.

totally.

The professors WANT the students to talk and ask questions.

[Suu]

I just shelled out my $65 and submitted my application to graduate school.

I will now writhe in stress-induced pain until I get the response in about a month.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I just shelled out my $65 and submitted my application to graduate school.

I will now writhe in stress-induced pain until I get the response in about a month.

Good luck!

[Suu]

Thanks!

Tonight Poli Sci class was actually quite fun. We split into groups of 3 and had to draft and plan to ratify an amendment to the Constitution in a half hour. There was everything from Congressional term limits, forcing more women into legislative seats, and student loan/tuition repayment reform (that was ours.)

The icing on the cake was the group that wanted to repeal Obamacare. When they said what they were trying, the professor stopped, and said, "Wait...how old are you?"

"22...21...19."

"Who pays for your healthcare?"

"...My parents."

"...okay then, please continue, because I can't wait to hear what you have to say."

Naturally, they left in the 26 year old clause, and the pre-existing condition clause, but they couldn't make a solid argument for why it should be repealed other than that "People shouldn't be forced into buying things." I had to hand it to them though, because they were able to produce a half-way decent argument, and didn't get flustered or anything.