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Started by agent compassion, December 11, 2004, 05:34:36 AM

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Published on Thursday, December 9, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
The US Administration and The ICC*
by Congressman Dennis Kucinich

*International Criminal Court

The ICC derives from the principles and purposes of the United Nations, specifically that all states shall refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state

Each and every member of the community of nations under the United Nations Charter, Article 51, has an undisputed right to self-defense. That right is express. Any nation may claim it. As a matter of record, I assert here and now that the United States has a right to defend itself. I also assert, for the record, that our US Administration has confused the difference between defense and offense.

In order to fully understand the determination of the current US Administration to stand outside the ICC, thus remaining unaccountable for violations of international law, one must understand the difficult situation the Administration finds itself in for ordering a preemptive attack upon Iraq, without prior authorization of the UN Security Council.

The Administration's case against Iraq, if it ever had a credible one, has fallen apart: Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). Iraq was not attempting to get uranium from Niger. According to our own intelligence, Iraq did not have the capability, or the intention of attacking the United States. Iraq had nothing to do with the tragedy of 9/11.

Unfortunately, there is an abundance of evidence which suggests the Administration used the tragedy of 9/11 as an excuse to attack Iraq, and had, indeed, been planning an attack on Iraq from the earliest days it came to power.

Unable to establish a justification for its war, unable to find the WMDs, and with its doctrine of preemption in collapse, the Administration switched its causus belli for the attack on Iraq to . . . regime change - - and made the ouster of Saddam Hussein the reason for the attack on Iraq. It is well understood that, under widely recognized international law, no nation has an inherent unilateral right to breach the sovereignty of any nation and to relieve people of any nation of their leader or government.

In the wake of the attack on Iraq, questions have been made regarding the responsibility of members of the Administration and their contractors, for authorizing torture, for the destruction and appropriation of property, unlawful confinement, attacks on civilians, attacks on civilian objects, exacting excessive incidental death, injury or damage, destroying or seizing the enemy's property, employing poisoned weapons, and outrages upon personal dignity, all of which constitute war crimes or crimes against humanity under the International Criminal Court statute, which entered into force on July 1, 2002.

Given the public record of its conduct in Iraq, is it any wonder that the Administration, in order to avoid accountability under the ICC for the results of its own directives, would go to extraordinary efforts to weaken and even destroy the ICC, and to threaten nations which support it with economic reprisals?

The Administration has told the American people that it refuses to participate in the ICC in order to protect our troops from being brought to the Hague. One might ask should troops be held accountable and those who sent them not be accountable? In fact, all troops are protected because there is a specific provision in the ICC in which all military personnel have the right to be returned to their home country for trial. The ICC gets involved only if a suspect is being "shielded from criminal responsibility."

It is more likely that those whose protection the administrators seek wear not the uniform of our nation, but the business suits of top civilian government officials who wrap themselves in the flag and hide behind the troops while insisting upon impunity for the deadly consequences of their own political decisions.

Unfortunately, the cascading effects of bad decisions necessitate that the current US Administration construct a wholesale revision of the role of the United States in the world community, making in our own nation a religion of unilateralism. How else to cloak blatant violations of the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions, the Hague Conventions and our own US Constitution, which under Article I, Section 8 reserves war-making power to the US Congress? How else to escape the legal and moral requirements of the rule of law and the establishment of justice which the very founders of the United States saw as having transcendent meaning?

There are many in our United States government who do understand that Peace can only be obtained through international cooperation and adherence by all nations to high principles. We know that, as a matter of the survival of the human race, unilateralism must yield to multilateralism. The American electorate may experience a sharp partisan division. Today that division has been translated into policies which set the United States apart from the rest of the world on matters of the International Criminal Court, the nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty , the Kyoto Climate Change Treaty, the Biological Weapons Convention, the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Small Arms Treaty, and the Land Mines Treaty.

In times when principles of international unity are under attack, it is urgent for all those of us who appreciate the endless ways in which the people of the world are interrelated and interconnected to stand up, to assert and to enact principles which respect, assert and codify the imperative of human unity. Each of us has the responsibility and the gift to work within our sphere to construct a world where all may survive and thrive in peace and justice.

We must work tirelessly for ratification or accession to the Rome Statute. That is why we must remind our constituents of the urgency of having a sustainable system of international justice. 9/11 remains a crime against not only this nation, but a crime against humanity. The perpetrators of 9/11 must be brought to justice. But no one nation can or should meet the task alone. International cooperation is mandatory. Only the ICC presents a workable framework for the functioning of an international justice system which will affirm the basic human rights of all people of all nations and will deliver the world from a so-called war on terror which ends up producing terror of its own.

We must do this work regardless of who is or isn't abusing power, regardless of who stands apart from the process or who is trying to wreck the process. We must focus on our own task, and reach out to all those who believe, as we do, that we can create a new world by international standards of justice.

The power of human unity is as inexorable as the power of human love. No matter how challenging things may seem in the moment, with compassion and patience we will create the world we seek, and those who today stand at the periphery of that world must continue to be welcomed inside, without fear. Thanks to each of you for truly being parliamentarians for global action.

Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) is Co-Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


Ben

He would have made a good president.  He was gonna run for it but I don't remember him on the ballot.

agent compassion

He *was* on all the primary ballots, but he stepped aside after the primaries, because Kerry had the delegates needed for nomination....a few dozen of Dennis's delegates still voted for him at the Convention, but it wasn't NEARLY enough. *sigh*

He would have pwned Bush....none of this "nuanced" shit. I spent a bit of time with him when he campaigned in my state, and lemme tell you, he is DIRECT. You ask him something, and he tells you what he means, and sometimes he gives a long and complicated answer, but you know, some questions ARE long and complicated and a simplistic answer just doesn't cut it; and he knew when to give the short and sweet and when to go into big detail. And he also had enough respect for people to say he didn't know something when he didn't know, instead of BSing an answer....but then he would go and FIND OUT about the question and come up with an answer for next time. He didn't get snotty when you would maybe not be satisfied with the answer and ask the question again, he would just try again to answer it until you were satisfied. And he would look you in the eye when he talked to you - talking to YOU, not the cameras.

I remember one time where there weren't even news cameras, just one that the event organizers were making a tape for posterity(and they never did come through with the copy they promised me) and I asked him a question and he went on at length, he talked for about ten minutes and it was like for a minute the whole politician veneer thing was off and he was speaking from his heart, being really honest and the stuff he said was just mindblowing, not just from a spiritual context, but also that here he was running for the highest office in the land and yet he was sitting on the floor with no shoes on, talking about things like love and courage and bowling to a total stranger with no self-consciousness whatsoever.

And some of the people laughed and I wanted to KILL them because they did not understand what was going on...I thought "oh, you fucking idiots, this is why he can't get elected, when his own supporters are being syncophants and laughing at what they think is a joke!" There is such an inability to read between lines these days, people only glance, they never SEE. They hear but they never LISTEN.

After the event, I thanked him, and then he hugged me and gave me a little kiss on the forehead. It's a memory I treasure, and sometimes when I get too down and I think that everyone is turning into assholes and that politics isn't for me because it just ruins people, I remember him and I think, hey, he's been doing this for 30 odd years and he's still a good person, and it's not an act. Nothing he does is an act. He's just a real person which is why he'll probably never get elected - we like 'em tall and phony in this country.

'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


Horab Fibslager

he lost because his name is hard to pronounce and spell.
Hell is other people.

agent compassion

Quotehe lost because his name is hard to pronounce and spell.

No, he lost because the DLC had already decided to have Kerry and so they mowed down anyone else who was a threat to Kerry.

But superficially, people had all kinds of stupid reasons not to vote for him, like:

He's short. He's ethnic. He's a vegan. He's not married. He's not a multibillionaire Yalie. He's not a war hero(he was disqualified from the draft because of a heart problem.)

If you can say "Schwarzenegger" or "Eisenhower" you can say "Kucinich." Anyways, most people just called him Dennis and he was cool with that. Not hung up on titles at all. And "Dennis" is really EASY to say and spell.



:roll:

'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


chaosgraves:agentoferis

Quote from: agent compassion
Quotehe lost because his name is hard to pronounce and spell.

No, he lost because the DLC had already decided to have Kerry and so they mowed down anyone else who was a threat to Kerry.

But superficially, people had all kinds of stupid reasons not to vote for him, like:

He's short. He's ethnic. He's a vegan. He's not married. He's not a multibillionaire Yalie. He's not a war hero(he was disqualified from the draft because of a heart problem.)

If you can say "Schwarzenegger" or "Eisenhower" you can say "Kucinich." Anyways, most people just called him Dennis and he was cool with that. Not hung up on titles at all. And "Dennis" is really EASY to say and spell.



:roll:
I get told that I mispeak all three names... and I know that I've never been able to speel the other two.
Constitution?!?!? Isn't that a D&D stat.

Horab Fibslager

i knew a guy nam,ed dennis once. he's probaly in prison now.
Hell is other people.

Wishfarple

Quote from: horab-i knew a guy nam,ed dennis once. he's probaly in prison now.

::points, looks at AC::

See?
His Right Most Honorable Super Hella Reverend Llama Wishfart Rinpoche of the Church of Ed Gein (Deceased),
Temple of Cleveland

agent compassion

Quotehorab- wrote:
i knew a guy nam,ed dennis once. he's probaly in prison now.


::points, looks at AC::

See?

Why are you asking the air conditioner?



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'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


Cain

I thought the point of using Kerry was that Bush would get in, make things worse then Hilary Clinton comes round next time and everyone hates Bush so much that they vote for her.  At least thats what The Times and The Guardian has insinuated more than once.

East Coast Hustle

umm, yeah...

I'm a pretty hardcore bleeding heart liberal, and there's a good chance I'd vote Republican automatically if Hillary Clinton was the Democrat candidate...

she's such a fuckin' SCUMBAG...

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Cain

So are there no New Soviet Party canidates to vote for?

East Coast Hustle

there would be, if we believed in things like democracy and elections...

we're more likely to just take over by sheer force of numbers/will/the big-ass stash of bombs and guns buried in the backyard than we are to run an inferior candidate in a fraudulent election...
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Horab Fibslager

rule #1 leads me to believe there are no bombs/guns.

if you want all my weapons you must first chop off my hands.
Hell is other people.

East Coast Hustle

if we do not want all your weapons, you will not be the first to know.

maybe.

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"