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Started by P3nT4gR4m, October 09, 2013, 10:02:32 AM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 10, 2013, 03:55:51 PM
What you seem to be saying is that ALL insults are inherently wrong. Or is it more, just the ones you don't like?

No, I'm way more OK with clever insults that aren't unfunny puns repeated ad nauseam by multitudes like lines from Monty Python.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 10, 2013, 04:00:30 PM
:spittake:

Didn't realise they gave themselves the nickname - even dumber than I thought

It was actually mind-boggling, at the time. I remember the exact WTF moment and screaming at the teevee "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME, HOW DO THEY NOT KNOW!!!?"
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Also, if you're going to be bigoted, it's best to make a conscious decision and make sure you're OK with it. If you are OK with being bigoted against all people of faith, go to town, but it may cost you some friendships.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Sita

I now have a fit of the giggles. I will never look at a news article about the Teabaggers the same again :lol:
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I'm not an expert on US Politics, but I think some people call themselves Teabaggers. It's only an insult when used to describe a person who doesn't agree with them. Faithfool, on the other hand, sounds bad to everyone.

"Fascist" might be closer to the kind of word you are looking for (an insult that isn't inherently wrong).
The difference is that unlike faithfool, fascist (or teabagger) is an actually useful word in serious conversation, sometimes, and can't be easily replaced.

P3nT4gR4m

I use "faithfool" all the time cos it's blunt (I don't do subtle) and describes exactly the subset of spirituality that I hate, ie the intellectual quicksand that is "faith" but if it's putting noses out of joint I'll drop it.

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Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 10, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Also, if you're going to be bigoted, it's best to make a conscious decision and make sure you're OK with it. If you are OK with being bigoted against all people of faith, go to town, but it may cost you some friendships.

I can be civil to people of faith, hell I can even enjoy their company, but I'd never trust one as a friend

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 10, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 10, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Also, if you're going to be bigoted, it's best to make a conscious decision and make sure you're OK with it. If you are OK with being bigoted against all people of faith, go to town, but it may cost you some friendships.

I can be civil to people of faith, hell I can even enjoy their company, but I'd never trust one as a friend

I certainly wouldn't let my daughter marry one.
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P3nT4gR4m

For me there's generally the two aspects to a religion - faith & spirituality

faith is pretty much believing (like actually believing) that all the invisible man, raising the dead shit is really real

spirituality is the message - be nice to people, don't kill or steal or lie, help out a brother or sister in need


spirituality without faith is pretty much me

spirituality with faith is a good guy but a bit deluded (I'd sort of trust them but wonder about their mental health)

faith without spirituality is someone I'd happily kill in cold blood

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 10, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 10, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Also, if you're going to be bigoted, it's best to make a conscious decision and make sure you're OK with it. If you are OK with being bigoted against all people of faith, go to town, but it may cost you some friendships.

I can be civil to people of faith, hell I can even enjoy their company, but I'd never trust one as a friend

You sound like a cranky Christopher Hitchens.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 10, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 10, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Also, if you're going to be bigoted, it's best to make a conscious decision and make sure you're OK with it. If you are OK with being bigoted against all people of faith, go to town, but it may cost you some friendships.

I can be civil to people of faith, hell I can even enjoy their company, but I'd never trust one as a friend

Wow.

My best friend is Jewish. I think your attitude is pretty repulsive, and yeah, comparable to racism or sexism.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 10, 2013, 04:21:09 PM
For me there's generally the two aspects to a religion - faith & spirituality

faith is pretty much believing (like actually believing) that all the invisible man, raising the dead shit is really real

spirituality is the message - be nice to people, don't kill or steal or lie, help out a brother or sister in need


spirituality without faith is pretty much me

spirituality with faith is a good guy but a bit deluded (I'd sort of trust them but wonder about their mental health)

faith without spirituality is someone I'd happily kill in cold blood

So you're also a hypocrite, and a presumptuous one at that, who presumes to define people's spiritual relationships.

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"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Id be interested to know where you draw the line where belief in the bearded guy becomes mental illness. Reason being is that religiosity is kinda hardwired into the human brain. Does god exist? You know probably not. At least not the type of god usually implied. Are we going to stop believing in him? No. Humans generally need some sort of meaningful narrative to the cosmos. Irrational perhaps. But its not mental illness if its generally not detrimental and is the norm.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 10, 2013, 05:46:40 PM
Id be interested to know where you draw the line where belief in the bearded guy becomes mental illness. Reason being is that religiosity is kinda hardwired into the human brain. Does god exist? You know probably not. At least not the type of god usually implied. Are we going to stop believing in him? No. Humans generally need some sort of meaningful narrative to the cosmos. Irrational perhaps. But its not mental illness if its generally not detrimental and is the norm.

Eh that's taking the conclusion way way too far. Some human brains are predisposed to religiosity, it's true, but you can't extrapolate that to all of humanity.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

I just want to know why it's okay to be biased against people for something they choose, instead of something they were born as.

Specific things, yeah, if those specific things are harmful to others (teabaggers, moral majority, KKK, Nazis, etc). 

But I could just as easily say "All people that listen to rap are criminals and thugs" and be just as accurate as referring to people who believe in God(s) as "faithfools". 

Also, on a totally unrelated note, "faithfools" sounds like "Clintoon" or "Obummer".  It's almost clever, which makes it worse than not being clever at all.

More to the point, it's part of a uniform.

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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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