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Started by hooplala, October 25, 2013, 03:46:34 PM

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hooplala

So there's this young lady in Toronto who is dating guys just to eat in nice places, and writes a blog about it: hxxp://restauranttipsfromaserialdater.tumblr.com

I'm torn between being disgusted by her cruel manipulation of strangers, and being bowled over by such an obvious, yet genius, idea. 

Surely she can't be the only person doing this, but how many advertise it?  Her face is ALL over that blog, so she's not exactly hiding... and in one of the posts she admits to getting busted by a guy who knew she was talking about him online.  People in town are foaming at the mouth...

Thoughts?
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on October 25, 2013, 03:46:34 PM
So there's this young lady in Toronto who is dating guys just to eat in nice places, and writes a blog about it: hxxp://restauranttipsfromaserialdater.tumblr.com

I'm torn between being disgusted by her cruel manipulation of strangers, and being bowled over by such an obvious, yet genius, idea. 

Surely she can't be the only person doing this, but how many advertise it?  Her face is ALL over that blog, so she's not exactly hiding... and in one of the posts she admits to getting busted by a guy who knew she was talking about him online.  People in town are foaming at the mouth...

Thoughts?

It's definitely not novel (I can't recall who now, but I read a bio of a girl in NYC in the 60's who said that she was so broke that sometimes the only time she ate was when men took her out to dinner so it because sort of a survival strategy for her and other girls she knew), but in this era it seems kind of a dick move.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


hooplala

Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on October 25, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 25, 2013, 03:46:34 PM
So there's this young lady in Toronto who is dating guys just to eat in nice places, and writes a blog about it: hxxp://restauranttipsfromaserialdater.tumblr.com

I'm torn between being disgusted by her cruel manipulation of strangers, and being bowled over by such an obvious, yet genius, idea. 

Surely she can't be the only person doing this, but how many advertise it?  Her face is ALL over that blog, so she's not exactly hiding... and in one of the posts she admits to getting busted by a guy who knew she was talking about him online.  People in town are foaming at the mouth...

Thoughts?

It's definitely not novel (I can't recall who now, but I read a bio of a girl in NYC in the 60's who said that she was so broke that sometimes the only time she ate was when men took her out to dinner so it because sort of a survival strategy for her and other girls she knew), but in this era it seems kind of a dick move.

True.  And I think I might be more inclined to rally behind her if she was entertaining or well written, and this was fodder for quality.  But, as it is, it seems to be more about grandstanding than anything else.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

 :lulz: Having read her blog, I am confused. Is she really a shitneck or is this her blog persona? Is she really exploiting men for meals or is it all a set up for her blog?

Either she's a giant asshole or she's very creative...
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


hooplala

This is what I can't decide at the moment, so I brought here for the verdict from PD.com.

At the moment I'm leaning toward creative shitneck.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on October 25, 2013, 04:04:20 PM
This is what I can't decide at the moment, so I brought here for the verdict from PD.com.

At the moment I'm leaning toward creative shitneck.

I think you may have it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Demolition Squid

I've got to admire the balls of it. Even if I think the idea is skeezy, she's thrown it out there for the world to see, and presumably she expected it to blow up and her face to be all over it.

There's a certain amount of courage to that. I wouldn't have the guts myself, that's for sure.
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 25, 2013, 04:04:53 PM
I've got to admire the balls of it. Even if I think the idea is skeezy, she's thrown it out there for the world to see, and presumably she expected it to blow up and her face to be all over it.

There's a certain amount of courage to that. I wouldn't have the guts myself, that's for sure.

Yeah exactly. She's blogging it, so she certainly didn't intend for it to remain secret. She's already been busted, but she's keeping on doing it.

I will confess that when I was younger there were times when I essentially escorted for dinner. It was in the open, though; I was like, if you need a nice-looking lady on your arm for the evening, I'll totally provide charming conversation and impress your coworkers if you provide dinner and drinks.

That's really hard to do now, though, because people assume you're saying you're a prostitute.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Junkenstein

seems related, was making the rounds yesterday:

http://www.carrotdating.com/

QuoteMessaging may get her interested, but bribery will get you a date. Don't waste time contacting countless singles in hopes that one will say "yes." The Carrot Dating app gives you the power to date your first choice, not settle for only the ones who replied.

Random article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/carrot-dating-app-accused-of-sexism-8894665.html

QuoteAn online dating app has been attacked as sexist and even accused of encouraging prostitution.

Carrot Dating, developed by an MIT graduate, allows men to 'bribe' women into offering them dates with everything from jewelry to a tank full of petrol. Users wanting to get the romance going can even offer prospective suitors plastic surgery.

The idea behind the app is that users 'dangle a carrot' in exchange for getting women to go out with them, according to its creator Brandon Wade.

The app, with its unashamed promotion of bribery, has been likened by the US news website Business Insider to exchanging money for sex.

Business Insider's Christina Sterbenz wrote, "through Carrot Dating, users (but really men)... can buy credits to send "gifts" to other users ... so they'll agree to a first date. That sounds quite like an activity illegal in most of the continental US — prostitution."

"Aside from being blatantly sexist, Wade's app clearly won't build the chemistry needed to fall in love.

"In fact, this problematic app is teaching men that women are greedy idiots who can't see through blatant and pathetic misogyny.

"For the record, if you offer a woman a present in exchange for a first date, then you're implying she can be bought, much like a hooker.'

There's a rare level of tragedy here.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

hooplala

Thing is, it's hard to feel very sorry for the guys. They seem pretty unconcerned that she can't remember their names or what they look like... Seems like most of them are in this for something too, so it could be simply quid pro quo.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Faust

She is using being busted and the publicity in the exact same way, in the first few posts she is invited to go on local radio and feature in a magazine.

It is such an obviously dickish thing to post the details of the targets online. If it was just about the food then then go for it, it's not like the guy gets nothing he has the evening of company and conversation which is enough to pick a lot of guys out of a rut or depression.

But the fact that she is leveraging the publicity makes it feel very exploitative, I haven't read through the dinner reviews yet, If she is humiliating the guys/girls she goes on dates with than it is very unfair.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on October 25, 2013, 04:11:31 PM
seems related, was making the rounds yesterday:

http://www.carrotdating.com/

QuoteMessaging may get her interested, but bribery will get you a date. Don't waste time contacting countless singles in hopes that one will say "yes." The Carrot Dating app gives you the power to date your first choice, not settle for only the ones who replied.

Random article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/carrot-dating-app-accused-of-sexism-8894665.html

QuoteAn online dating app has been attacked as sexist and even accused of encouraging prostitution.

Carrot Dating, developed by an MIT graduate, allows men to 'bribe' women into offering them dates with everything from jewelry to a tank full of petrol. Users wanting to get the romance going can even offer prospective suitors plastic surgery.

The idea behind the app is that users 'dangle a carrot' in exchange for getting women to go out with them, according to its creator Brandon Wade.

The app, with its unashamed promotion of bribery, has been likened by the US news website Business Insider to exchanging money for sex.

Business Insider's Christina Sterbenz wrote, "through Carrot Dating, users (but really men)... can buy credits to send "gifts" to other users ... so they'll agree to a first date. That sounds quite like an activity illegal in most of the continental US — prostitution."

"Aside from being blatantly sexist, Wade's app clearly won't build the chemistry needed to fall in love.

"In fact, this problematic app is teaching men that women are greedy idiots who can't see through blatant and pathetic misogyny.

"For the record, if you offer a woman a present in exchange for a first date, then you're implying she can be bought, much like a hooker.'

There's a rare level of tragedy here.

I am fascinated by the skewed little microcosm that is a window to. I have known three women who I think would absolutely go for something like that... all of them bizarre little mercenaries with a trail of chewed-up exes behind them. I am talking about some of the worst women you could ever hope to spend time with; perfectly pretty and charming and sweet on the surface, but scary-amoral underneath. So you end up with guys who don't know how to meet women normally, or who don't want to date the women they would normally meet, and they end up dating girls who are essentially sociopaths, who inevitably in the end get bored and cruel and leave them more damaged than they found them, and even more convinced that women are these inhuman creatures fueled solely by greed, so this crazy, creepy cycle perpetuates.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


hooplala

Quote from: Faust on October 25, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
She is using being busted and the publicity in the exact same way, in the first few posts she is invited to go on local radio and feature in a magazine.

It is such an obviously dickish thing to post the details of the targets online. If it was just about the food then then go for it, it's not like the guy gets nothing he has the evening of company and conversation which is enough to pick a lot of guys out of a rut or depression.

But the fact that she is leveraging the publicity makes it feel very exploitative, I haven't read through the dinner reviews yet, If she is humiliating the guys/girls she goes on dates with than it is very unfair.

She certainly isn't overly flattering.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on October 25, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
She is using being busted and the publicity in the exact same way, in the first few posts she is invited to go on local radio and feature in a magazine.

It is such an obviously dickish thing to post the details of the targets online. If it was just about the food then then go for it, it's not like the guy gets nothing he has the evening of company and conversation which is enough to pick a lot of guys out of a rut or depression.

But the fact that she is leveraging the publicity makes it feel very exploitative, I haven't read through the dinner reviews yet, If she is humiliating the guys/girls she goes on dates with than it is very unfair.

Oh, she is a complete asshole about it. And she talks openly about how 2's and 3's will pay for anything. It's a little  :eek:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Faust

Sleepless nights at the chateau