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Peeve of the day
« on: October 30, 2013, 12:16:31 pm »
When people talk about "Americans" but what they really mean is "White people".
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 12:19:33 pm »
When people talk about "Americans" but what they really mean is "White people".

Kind of like when people say "Christian" but mean "people who aren't assholes"?
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 12:23:04 pm »
When people talk about "Americans" but what they really mean is "White people".

Kind of like when people say "Christian" but mean "people who aren't assholes"?

Sort of, but more the other way around.

It's just the general assumption that "American" means "white person". Just another tiny little unconscious exclusion of everyone who isn't white from being full participants in American society; a reminder, if you will, that we aren't Real Americans.

It grinds on you, after a while.
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 12:31:28 pm »
Just using Americans for the US instead of the continent is enough to bother most people people I know. Couple that with your peeve and White citizens of the USA are suddenly representatives of a huge population and landmass that they are a small part of.

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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 12:33:40 pm »
When people talk about "Americans" but what they really mean is "White people".

Or even "some white people".  I would hope that what most people think of when they say "americans" is, in fact, a very small minority of the population.

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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 12:50:46 pm »
Just using Americans for the US instead of the continent is enough to bother most people people I know. Couple that with your peeve and White citizens of the USA are suddenly representatives of a huge population and landmass that they are a small part of.

I've put some thought into this:

We are United States of Americans. There are Canadians to the North, and Mexicans to the South. I know we all live in North America, but think of something else to call us that doesn't sound dumb. Seriously.

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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 12:52:30 pm »
Just using Americans for the US instead of the continent is enough to bother most people people I know. Couple that with your peeve and White citizens of the USA are suddenly representatives of a huge population and landmass that they are a small part of.

Bingo.
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 12:53:33 pm »
When people talk about "Americans" but what they really mean is "White people".

Or even "some white people".  I would hope that what most people think of when they say "americans" is, in fact, a very small minority of the population.

I would hope for the exact opposite, but likely what you say reflects reality.
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 12:54:20 pm »
Just using Americans for the US instead of the continent is enough to bother most people people I know. Couple that with your peeve and White citizens of the USA are suddenly representatives of a huge population and landmass that they are a small part of.

I've put some thought into this:

We are United States of Americans. There are Canadians to the North, and Mexicans to the South. I know we all live in North America, but think of something else to call us that doesn't sound dumb. Seriously.

Staters? Stateys? United Statsians? USers?

See?

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Yeah choose a better name for the United States of X, The current one is taken and comes off as confusing.

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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 12:56:09 pm »
Just using Americans for the US instead of the continent is enough to bother most people people I know. Couple that with your peeve and White citizens of the USA are suddenly representatives of a huge population and landmass that they are a small part of.

I've put some thought into this:

We are United States of Americans. There are Canadians to the North, and Mexicans to the South. I know we all live in North America, but think of something else to call us that doesn't sound dumb. Seriously.

Staters? Stateys? United Statsians? USers?

See?

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We're the only country with "America" in the name, so it makes sense to shorthand us as "Americans". It just gets a little confusing when you consider that everyone else on both American continents are also Americans.
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 01:09:43 pm »
Purpleris and I had an interesting discussion about this yesterday. We're going to a Halloween party and she mentioned it was a Christian holiday. I pointed out that it wasn't Christian and many Christians actually are against it. It's a Western European/American holiday... but from the perspective of Turks, "Western" and "Christian" and "American" seem synonymous, particularly when it comes to cultural things like Halloween. The same from my perspective when I was there. One of their bayram (holidays) is the Candy Bayram which I assumed was Muslim, but its cultural. The same for New Years, where Turks celebrate with Turkey Dinners, a dude that looks like Santa, holiday lights, holiday trees, etc. Yet, its not Mulsim at all, its just Turkish... and some muslims hate it, because they see it as appropriation of Christian symbols.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 01:12:33 pm »
Purpleris and I had an interesting discussion about this yesterday. We're going to a Halloween party and she mentioned it was a Christian holiday. I pointed out that it wasn't Christian and many Christians actually are against it. It's a Western European/American holiday... but from the perspective of Turks, "Western" and "Christian" and "American" seem synonymous, particularly when it comes to cultural things like Halloween. The same from my perspective when I was there. One of their bayram (holidays) is the Candy Bayram which I assumed was Muslim, but its cultural. The same for New Years, where Turks celebrate with Turkey Dinners, a dude that looks like Santa, holiday lights, holiday trees, etc. Yet, its not Mulsim at all, its just Turkish... and some muslims hate it, because they see it as appropriation of Christian symbols.

That's hilarious, given that many American Christians think Halloween is Satanic, and the Christmas tree and Santa business is Pagan.  :lol:
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 01:18:48 pm »
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 01:23:11 pm »
Purpleris and I had an interesting discussion about this yesterday. We're going to a Halloween party and she mentioned it was a Christian holiday. I pointed out that it wasn't Christian and many Christians actually are against it. It's a Western European/American holiday... but from the perspective of Turks, "Western" and "Christian" and "American" seem synonymous, particularly when it comes to cultural things like Halloween. The same from my perspective when I was there. One of their bayram (holidays) is the Candy Bayram which I assumed was Muslim, but its cultural. The same for New Years, where Turks celebrate with Turkey Dinners, a dude that looks like Santa, holiday lights, holiday trees, etc. Yet, its not Mulsim at all, its just Turkish... and some muslims hate it, because they see it as appropriation of Christian symbols.

That's hilarious, given that many American Christians think Halloween is Satanic, and the Christmas tree and Santa business is Pagan.  :lol:

Yep, its a great example of very confused cultural interactions.
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Re: Peeve of the day
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 01:27:56 pm »
So, one could have a ceremony that was in every identical to another culture's, and have the same intent behind the ceremony, and it's not cultural appropriation if the simply call it something else?

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