Damn You All

[The Good Reverend Roger]

At some point, over the last two years or so, PD has gone from "discussion" to "we're under the blanket, talking about Those People"...With "Those People" being defined as "those inferiors who aren't as good/smart/progressive as us.

And when someone says "You're wrong", or - God forbid - makes a satire out of the whole thing, the FIRST impulse is to get all fucking BUTTHURT and either pelt the offender with feces, or storm off in a righteous, towering snit.  Or, and this is my favorite reaction, start pretending the offender(s) doesn't exist.  You couldn't ignore RWHN or Poptard to save your fucking ass, but the people who agree with you on all but ONE POINT?  Then you're a paragon of will power.

And that's just a little TYPICAL of Fart Huffing Syndrome (FHS), isn't it?  Save the MOST hate for the people who ALMOST COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.  This is most obvious in religions.  The republican party, for example.

Another thing which I find amusing is that IGNORANCE is treated more harshly than OPPOSITION.  As an example, I give you the response to the self-defense argument, back in the rape threads..."You're part of the problem".  Remember that?  I believe that was Luna, but I recall several other people saying that.

As if anyone here was PART OF THE PROBLEM with that subject.  How laughable.  How fucking ridiculous.  And the BEST part, is that the smugly righteous people who DO these things are basically taking their convert pool and dumping it out, so that they can look MORE COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE IN THE EYES OF THEIR FELLOW FHS SUFFERERS.  Because the person whose head got bitten off for ignorance, who got told they are "part of the problem" have more than likely stopped caring about the problem ENTIRELY.

Potential convert:  "Hi, I'd like to help."

Ass Basket:  "FUCK YOU, YOU'RE WORSE THAN THE ACTUAL RAPIST, YOU GODDAMN COOKIE-SEEKER!"

Potential convert:  "Ooookay..." *backs away slowly, now believes everything he hears about "feminazis", because THAT is the experience that will stick in his mind.

And all that, just to vent your outrage in front of your peers.  Well done, you stupid fucking primate.

And that example can be used to cover each and every Cause that has been advanced at PD in the last 36 months or so.  The example above was chosen because of the particularly egregious examples that were provided during that screech-fest.  (Garbo comes to mind, here, with her bigoted spewing and mockery of anyone less committed, aini-like, to "the culture").

And you can tell when this issue is becoming terminal, because even satire is taken with a straight face, long after the satire part has been spelled out.  Because we'd hate to miss a chance to show the others how committed we are, right?

This isn't Discordia.  Sure, it's chaos, but it isn't Discordia.  It's just every other group of grunting, screeching, hopping-up-and-down fanatics in the history of monkeydom.

Congratulations.

Assholes.

Or Kill Me.


(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.) 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

By the way, if you're offended by the above, then odds are 99% that you are who I am talking about.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'd also like to point out that being butthurt during a discussion is one thing - some topics are sensitive - but that deciding "OH, THAT'S IT!" and blowing your eggs/sperm out the wrong orifice in rage for weeks is quite another.

[LMNO]

Chaos, but not Discordia.  I like that.


I also like that you, DOUR, have offered a perfectly good lesson as to how this kind of stuff should be playing out, practically and pragmatically.  It's not that you feel anger, and immediately stop yourself, and sit in a corner for five minutes until you've worked something out.  Nobody really does that, especially when a button gets pushed.  It's unrealistic to think that would, or even should, happen.  You got down into the mud, got dirty, and then noticed something was amiss.  Then you stepped off, said, "hold on..."

And when you resolved it in your head, you made all necessary apologies, pulled your pants back up, and let the drama go.  You didn't sit around and say, "YOU upset me, and you were right, and I just won't forgive that.

In short, you don't have to be a saint, you don't have to be a stone cold rationalist.  But you do have to get up off all fours and call yourself out from time to time, and move on.

ETA: looks like you just said the same thing, up there.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Chaos, but not Discordia.  I like that.


I also like that you, DOUR, have offered a perfectly good lesson as to how this kind of stuff should be playing out, practically and pragmatically.  It's not that you feel anger, and immediately stop yourself, and sit in a corner for five minutes until you've worked something out.  Nobody really does that, especially when a button gets pushed.  It's unrealistic to think that would, or even should, happen.  You got down into the mud, got dirty, and then noticed something was amiss.  Then you stepped off, said, "hold on..."

And when you resolved it in your head, you made all necessary apologies, pulled your pants back up, and let the drama go.  You didn't sit around and say, "YOU upset me, and you were right, and I just won't forgive that.

In short, you don't have to be a saint, you don't have to be a stone cold rationalist.  But you do have to get up off all fours and call yourself out from time to time, and move on.

ETA: looks like you just said the same thing, up there.

Learned that the hard fucking way, back in the bad old days.

I can't believe I spent 2 years sulking, and missing a bunch of the really GOOD shit that was going on.

And it PAINS me that we have to reinvent the fucking wheel every few years.

[Faust]

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)

WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)

WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

A couple of years back, it was a mosh pit, with people hollering and carrying on and getting excited or even pissed.  It was FUN.  Now it's an emo concert, with everyone sitting along the wall and saying how offensive the other side is.

And I have to disagree with the FB thing.  TDS is a bunch of pedos, and TDS2013 is word salad.

They're worse, just in a different way.

[Faust]

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)

WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

A couple of years back, it was a mosh pit, with people hollering and carrying on and getting excited or even pissed.  It was FUN.  Now it's an emo concert, with everyone sitting along the wall and saying how offensive the other side is.

And I have to disagree with the FB thing.  TDS is a bunch of pedos, and TDS2013 is word salad.

They're worse, just in a different way.

Pedo's, I haven't seen them post anything like that but I've only been watching them for the last few months. There's a few over there that I find funny. That Matt Kilb guy seems makes me laugh.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)

WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

A couple of years back, it was a mosh pit, with people hollering and carrying on and getting excited or even pissed.  It was FUN.  Now it's an emo concert, with everyone sitting along the wall and saying how offensive the other side is.

And I have to disagree with the FB thing.  TDS is a bunch of pedos, and TDS2013 is word salad.

They're worse, just in a different way.

Pedo's, I haven't seen them post anything like that but I've only been watching them for the last few months. There's a few over there that I find funny. That Matt Kilb guy seems makes me laugh.

Matt Kilb is mentally ill.  He's funny until he latches onto you.

Jonathan Bost and his pals are who I was talking about.

[Faust]

I just put him into the search bard and now I have to clear my cache....

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I just put him into the search bard and now I have to clear my cache....

Vicious little piggie, isn't he?

[hooplala]

you do have to get up off all fours

This is what Discordianism is, basically, to me.  And I agree with what LMNO said, of all the people I've known on PD over the years, Roger seems to have grown the most as a human being.  We didn't get along at first, largely because of some bad intel and my not understanding the satire, but eventually it opened up and I saw an example of how I too could become a better person.  Granted, in that atheism thread I did puff my chest up and throw some shit at first, but after the initial rage passed, introspection crept in. 

If we can't examine our faults, what are we?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

If we can't examine our faults, what are we?

DING. 

To me, that is the secondary goal of Discordianism, which is an offshoot of the primary goal:  To see the world the way it REALLY is, not the way I'd LIKE it to be, or even the way I'm AFRAID it is.

[hooplala]

If we can't examine our faults, what are we?

DING. 

To me, that is the secondary goal of Discordianism, which is an offshoot of the primary goal:  To see the world the way it REALLY is, not the way I'd LIKE it to be, or even the way I'm AFRAID it is.

Yes!  Yes you're right, that is the primary goal.

I also agree some of the funny on PD seems to be missing, from even 4 or 5 years ago, but then I could say the same about the world in general.

[Da6s]

...blowing your eggs/sperm out the wrong orifice in rage...

This mental image is amazing