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English language possibly regional or cultural idiom question.

Started by Nephew Twiddleton, November 01, 2013, 01:20:16 AM

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Which one of these do you say?

"On accident"
0 (0%)
"By accident"
11 (57.9%)
"Accidentally." What the fuck is this preposition bullshit?
8 (42.1%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Nephew Twiddleton

I say by accident. I'm not sure if it's a New England thing or just me or what, but whenever someone says on accident like CPD did in Open Bar a few minutes ago it becomes immediately noticeable to me.
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Golden Applesauce

I say both. It's entirely possible this is from living in more than one region of the US, though.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 01, 2013, 02:04:54 AM
I say both. It's entirely possible this is from living in more than one region of the US, though.

You're in the Eastern Midwest, correct?
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 01, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 01, 2013, 02:04:54 AM
I say both. It's entirely possible this is from living in more than one region of the US, though.

You're in the Eastern Midwest, correct?

Yeah. My dad is also from Eastern Midwest, my mom is from the DC area, and I spent years 2 - 12 in North Carolina / Tennessee.

I used to make fun of my cousins for saying "pop" instead of "soda" but now I say "pop" too...
Q: How regularly do you hire 8th graders?
A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 01, 2013, 02:17:30 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 01, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 01, 2013, 02:04:54 AM
I say both. It's entirely possible this is from living in more than one region of the US, though.

You're in the Eastern Midwest, correct?

Yeah. My dad is also from Eastern Midwest, my mom is from the DC area, and I spent years 2 - 12 in North Carolina / Tennessee.

I used to make fun of my cousins for saying "pop" instead of "soda" but now I say "pop" too...

Ah that. Yeah, if you say pop you're definitely not from the Northeast. Older Northeasterners say tonic.

You also get this sort of thing with footwear. I would say sneakers. Canadians apparently have the tendency to say runners and Irish people say trainers.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

I've never said "on accident" in my life. I've rarely heard it anyplace, and when I did, I always assumed it was mangled grammar, like "He weren't doin' nothin'."
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Sita

All of the above. They all sound fine to me.
Guess it depends on my mood or something at the time for which one I'll use.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 01, 2013, 02:41:17 AM
I've never said "on accident" in my life. I've rarely heard it anyplace, and when I did, I always assumed it was mangled grammar, like "He weren't doin' nothin'."

Maybe it's a specifically Midwestern thing, since you're both accustomed to Massachusetts and Texas.

Quote from: Sita on November 01, 2013, 02:47:40 AM
All of the above. They all sound fine to me.
Guess it depends on my mood or something at the time for which one I'll use.

Where do you hail from?

Also, that said, everyone voting, say where you hail from, and what your preference is even though it seems overwhelmingly by at this point.

Boston is a college town so we get people speaking English from all across the planet.
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Sita

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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Sita on November 01, 2013, 03:43:45 AM
Florida. Never have lived anywhere else.

Interesting.

Not that you're from Florida, but that would be a crossroads for all of the above.
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Nephew Twiddleton

#10
That said, my permanent residence is in the Metro-Boston area. I am a Masshole. I've never been away from this part of the US for more than 2 months. And I've never had a "permanent" residence further away from Boston than bordering Boston.

Blight,
Lives in Somerville; Charlestown, a neighborhood of Boston, is down the street.
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Golden Applesauce

Paper on "by accident" vs "on accident":
http://www.inst.at/trans/16Nr/01_4/barratt16.htm

She finds that (within the US) it's an age thing, not a region thing. People born before 1975 use "by accident" exclusively. Around 1990 birthdays "on accident" reaches parity with "by accident".

Now if someone can figure out why the switch happened with nobody noticing until it was already done...

Q: How regularly do you hire 8th graders?
A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 01, 2013, 05:11:49 AM
Paper on "by accident" vs "on accident":
http://www.inst.at/trans/16Nr/01_4/barratt16.htm

She finds that (within the US) it's an age thing, not a region thing. People born before 1975 use "by accident" exclusively. Around 1990 birthdays "on accident" reaches parity with "by accident".

Now if someone can figure out why the switch happened with nobody noticing until it was already done...

This doesn't match up with my admittedly anecdotal data.

Blight,
Only heard people born BEFORE 1990 say "on accident"
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East Coast Hustle

I would say "by accident" or "accidentally" depending on context. "On accident" sounds dumb.
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