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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2013, 02:01:46 am »
Everything you say is true. It seems that in all ideologically-driven movements, militant hardliners do more to hurt the movement than help it as people who share their beliefs are pushed away simply for not being quite so fundamentalist as them.

As someone who spent his teenage years politicking with unwashed far-left socialist types, I saw an initially united front repeatedly split and splinter into smaller and successively more pathetic groups with no influence over the years and so I now appreciate, perhaps more than most, the value of tolerance of minor differences within a movement.

The fact that you were thrown out of the Democratic Party for merely opposing them on one issue, especially an issue that some of the big shots in that party would agree with you on, is quite similar to an experience I had with the Socialist Party over here. Essentially, I was too honest about the tyranny of their Soviet idols and this was a constant source of conflict between us. My being pushed out of the party was for the best anyway as I now completely disagree with their ideology and no doubt would have ended up like this whether I kept associating with those useful idiots or not.

Anyway, in Discordianism, a system of thought that by its very nature attracts people from all walks of life and is particularly attractive to freethinkers and those who are otherwise "different", it's more important than ever to accept people for who they are, so long as they think for themselves, and instead focus on opposing those who would have us lose both the ability and the right to think for ourselves.

tl;dr: a truckload of :mittens: upon your house, Reverend

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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2013, 02:53:19 am »
Hi there, Malachite!
Im guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk, Charles Wick said. It was very complicated.


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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2013, 03:15:21 am »
Nigel? Long time no see!

It's nice to see that the old PDF crew have survived these past few years relatively intact.

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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2013, 03:25:59 am »
Nigel? Long time no see!

It's nice to see that the old PDF crew have survived these past few years relatively intact.

The very same!

Yeah, I think most of us are hanging in here pretty well.
Im guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk, Charles Wick said. It was very complicated.


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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2013, 04:57:23 am »
Whoa!  Check out the woodwork!  This is awesome!  Welcome back, Malachite!

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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2013, 02:41:25 pm »
Cool, Malachite's back!
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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2013, 05:30:03 am »
It's good to see you guys again! o/

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Re: The Traitor Complex
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2013, 03:10:27 am »
Everything you say is true. It seems that in all ideologically-driven movements, militant hardliners do more to hurt the movement than help it as people who share their beliefs are pushed away simply for not being quite so fundamentalist as them.

As someone who spent his teenage years politicking with unwashed far-left socialist types, I saw an initially united front repeatedly split and splinter into smaller and successively more pathetic groups with no influence over the years and so I now appreciate, perhaps more than most, the value of tolerance of minor differences within a movement.

The fact that you were thrown out of the Democratic Party for merely opposing them on one issue, especially an issue that some of the big shots in that party would agree with you on, is quite similar to an experience I had with the Socialist Party over here. Essentially, I was too honest about the tyranny of their Soviet idols and this was a constant source of conflict between us. My being pushed out of the party was for the best anyway as I now completely disagree with their ideology and no doubt would have ended up like this whether I kept associating with those useful idiots or not.

Anyway, in Discordianism, a system of thought that by its very nature attracts people from all walks of life and is particularly attractive to freethinkers and those who are otherwise "different", it's more important than ever to accept people for who they are, so long as they think for themselves, and instead focus on opposing those who would have us lose both the ability and the right to think for ourselves.

tl;dr: a truckload of :mittens: upon your house, Reverend

Oh and hi everyone!


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