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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, November 18, 2013, 08:29:19 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:33:07 PM
Couple of further thoughts:

"Guru" does have a number of religious/spritiual overtones and for those of that ilk, to me there is little difference between them beyond the titles and such they give themselves.

There's the other sort that we may overlook here - The "Lifestyle" Guru. The people who tell you that you'll get a raise if you move the chair. That kind of shit.

There's an industry of these people now working hand in hand with bullshit alternative medicine guys. It's a racket that exists mainly to exploit the rich and vapid, however it remains that - A racket that preys on the susceptible.

Armies of these people go forth daily "consulting" and having very important meetings with very wealthy people where precisely nothing of real value takes place yet significant cash is exchanged. If I was being very cynical, I'd say something about money laundering. There surely must be more than a few gaming the system in this manner.

Yeah, the only difference is that the lifestyle gurus prey on the rich.  Still vultures.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 18, 2013, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Here's what's always bothered me about gurus:

Explain the functional difference between "Guru" and "Gang Leader".

Seriously.

The two roles share so much in common they could be synonyms. It gets even closer when you add "wannabe" to this.

It seems to be an insane desire to be IN CHARGE of things. Everything. Nothing. Petty things become the world and you must not question the importance of the thing. Sick of the bullshit? Want to walk away? What's the difference in reaction between Scientology and [intimidating street gang]? Well, Street gang might kill you, or you and your family if we're talking big leagues. Scientology will keep you alive, bleed you dry and make your life a living hell until you keel over. Some would say street gang is more humane. Remember, that's a bunch of Guru's you've heard of. Imagine the kind of evil shit "Uncle Sammy's church of eternal joy" gets up to. Reckon Westboro Baptists are the craziest out there? Wanna bet?

When you say "Monkey behaviour" you're so very correct. Damaged Primates playing their own dominance games because they're unable to interact with larger society. Look at how gang membership drops when the members are employed. Consider why LOCAL CULT expects you to quit your job and move out to their compound.

"Gurus". A fad that should have died with the fucking Beatles.

Both also employ isolation, physically or otherwise, and alienation from any outside attachments.

Add in all the shit we know about how people behave in groups and when they put on uniforms and it gets scary. Consider Milgram and Stanford and the findings there. Now why are we surprised when we get a bunch of people behaving in a way that isn't wanted? You've got a solid group identity and alleviation of responsibility.

Shit ensues.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Good Reverend Roger

How did I forget to mention Holist?

He's the best wannabe-guru we've ever had.

STUPID ROGER.  NO BISCUIT GAME.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 18, 2013, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Here's what's always bothered me about gurus:

Explain the functional difference between "Guru" and "Gang Leader".

Seriously.

The two roles share so much in common they could be synonyms. It gets even closer when you add "wannabe" to this.

It seems to be an insane desire to be IN CHARGE of things. Everything. Nothing. Petty things become the world and you must not question the importance of the thing. Sick of the bullshit? Want to walk away? What's the difference in reaction between Scientology and [intimidating street gang]? Well, Street gang might kill you, or you and your family if we're talking big leagues. Scientology will keep you alive, bleed you dry and make your life a living hell until you keel over. Some would say street gang is more humane. Remember, that's a bunch of Guru's you've heard of. Imagine the kind of evil shit "Uncle Sammy's church of eternal joy" gets up to. Reckon Westboro Baptists are the craziest out there? Wanna bet?

When you say "Monkey behaviour" you're so very correct. Damaged Primates playing their own dominance games because they're unable to interact with larger society. Look at how gang membership drops when the members are employed. Consider why LOCAL CULT expects you to quit your job and move out to their compound.

"Gurus". A fad that should have died with the fucking Beatles.

Both also employ isolation, physically or otherwise, and alienation from any outside attachments.

Add in all the shit we know about how people behave in groups and when they put on uniforms and it gets scary. Consider Milgram and Stanford and the findings there. Now why are we surprised when we get a bunch of people behaving in a way that isn't wanted? You've got a solid group identity and alleviation of responsibility.

Shit ensues.

Hey, the Nazis didn't get their way by being reasonable, right?  Follow the simple formula, get regular people to commit atrocities.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

The more I consider this, the more similarities I find between Goebbels and Gillian Mckeith.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Good Reverend Roger

The neat thing about the war trials was they took the excuse of "no responsibility" away.

Too bad we reinstated it in 2003/2004.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Or another angle, Goebbels and Sylvia Browne.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Or another angle, Goebbels and Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 18, 2013, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Or another angle, Goebbels and Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

The woman who even by blind guessing should be more accurate. It's actually remarkable.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 19, 2013, 12:00:53 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 18, 2013, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Or another angle, Goebbels and Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

The woman who even by blind guessing should be more accurate. It's actually remarkable.

Sort of a reverse Cassandra.  She's always wrong, but people keep listening.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 19, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 19, 2013, 12:00:53 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 18, 2013, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Or another angle, Goebbels and Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

Sylvia Browne.

:tgrr:

The woman who even by blind guessing should be more accurate. It's actually remarkable.

Sort of a reverse Cassandra.  She's always wrong, but people keep listening.

I'm honestly tempted to see if I can bet on the opposite outcome of her most recent prediction happening. The idea of informing her of how much money I've made by betting she's wrong amuses me. Statistically speaking, it's practically a sure thing too.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Here's what's always bothered me about gurus:

Explain the functional difference between "Guru" and "Gang Leader".

Seriously.

The two roles share so much in common they could be synonyms. It gets even closer when you add "wannabe" to this.

It seems to be an insane desire to be IN CHARGE of things. Everything. Nothing. Petty things become the world and you must not question the importance of the thing. Sick of the bullshit? Want to walk away? What's the difference in reaction between Scientology and [intimidating street gang]? Well, Street gang might kill you, or you and your family if we're talking big leagues. Scientology will keep you alive, bleed you dry and make your life a living hell until you keel over. Some would say street gang is more humane. Remember, that's a bunch of Guru's you've heard of. Imagine the kind of evil shit "Uncle Sammy's church of eternal joy" gets up to. Reckon Westboro Baptists are the craziest out there? Wanna bet?

When you say "Monkey behaviour" you're so very correct. Damaged Primates playing their own dominance games because they're unable to interact with larger society. Look at how gang membership drops when the members are employed. Consider why LOCAL CULT expects you to quit your job and move out to their compound.

"Gurus". A fad that should have died with the fucking Beatles.

Ever seen a black guru?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on November 19, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Here's what's always bothered me about gurus:

Explain the functional difference between "Guru" and "Gang Leader".

Seriously.

The two roles share so much in common they could be synonyms. It gets even closer when you add "wannabe" to this.

It seems to be an insane desire to be IN CHARGE of things. Everything. Nothing. Petty things become the world and you must not question the importance of the thing. Sick of the bullshit? Want to walk away? What's the difference in reaction between Scientology and [intimidating street gang]? Well, Street gang might kill you, or you and your family if we're talking big leagues. Scientology will keep you alive, bleed you dry and make your life a living hell until you keel over. Some would say street gang is more humane. Remember, that's a bunch of Guru's you've heard of. Imagine the kind of evil shit "Uncle Sammy's church of eternal joy" gets up to. Reckon Westboro Baptists are the craziest out there? Wanna bet?

When you say "Monkey behaviour" you're so very correct. Damaged Primates playing their own dominance games because they're unable to interact with larger society. Look at how gang membership drops when the members are employed. Consider why LOCAL CULT expects you to quit your job and move out to their compound.

"Gurus". A fad that should have died with the fucking Beatles.

Ever seen a black guru?

Uncle BadTouch.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on November 19, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Here's what's always bothered me about gurus:

Explain the functional difference between "Guru" and "Gang Leader".

Seriously.

The two roles share so much in common they could be synonyms. It gets even closer when you add "wannabe" to this.

It seems to be an insane desire to be IN CHARGE of things. Everything. Nothing. Petty things become the world and you must not question the importance of the thing. Sick of the bullshit? Want to walk away? What's the difference in reaction between Scientology and [intimidating street gang]? Well, Street gang might kill you, or you and your family if we're talking big leagues. Scientology will keep you alive, bleed you dry and make your life a living hell until you keel over. Some would say street gang is more humane. Remember, that's a bunch of Guru's you've heard of. Imagine the kind of evil shit "Uncle Sammy's church of eternal joy" gets up to. Reckon Westboro Baptists are the craziest out there? Wanna bet?

When you say "Monkey behaviour" you're so very correct. Damaged Primates playing their own dominance games because they're unable to interact with larger society. Look at how gang membership drops when the members are employed. Consider why LOCAL CULT expects you to quit your job and move out to their compound.

"Gurus". A fad that should have died with the fucking Beatles.

Ever seen a black guru?

I could say I've seen a number of various religious types (Mainstream and non) as well as a variety of professionals that would fit the "lifestyle" angle. I wasn't really considering this from a race angle yet, to be honest I was writing with the generic rich Indian guru in mind. The guy with the bentleys specifically. Am I missing something?
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 19, 2013, 12:06:33 AM
Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on November 19, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 18, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Here's what's always bothered me about gurus:

Explain the functional difference between "Guru" and "Gang Leader".

Seriously.

The two roles share so much in common they could be synonyms. It gets even closer when you add "wannabe" to this.

It seems to be an insane desire to be IN CHARGE of things. Everything. Nothing. Petty things become the world and you must not question the importance of the thing. Sick of the bullshit? Want to walk away? What's the difference in reaction between Scientology and [intimidating street gang]? Well, Street gang might kill you, or you and your family if we're talking big leagues. Scientology will keep you alive, bleed you dry and make your life a living hell until you keel over. Some would say street gang is more humane. Remember, that's a bunch of Guru's you've heard of. Imagine the kind of evil shit "Uncle Sammy's church of eternal joy" gets up to. Reckon Westboro Baptists are the craziest out there? Wanna bet?

When you say "Monkey behaviour" you're so very correct. Damaged Primates playing their own dominance games because they're unable to interact with larger society. Look at how gang membership drops when the members are employed. Consider why LOCAL CULT expects you to quit your job and move out to their compound.

"Gurus". A fad that should have died with the fucking Beatles.

Ever seen a black guru?

Uncle BadTouch.

:lulz: Point.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."