"Tranny"

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm going to qualify that by saying I still like Garbo but haven't seen the crazy that you guys have apparently seen.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

A lot of it's here in the old threads.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Mainly because, even though I am LGBTACGKEJWOIYHDVNMKDVFP:LJ myself, I really don't care about The Cause^TM beyond don't be a dick to other people. So anything about The Cause^TM I just ignore by default.

Like the whole cis thing. I had no idea what cis meant. Apparently I'm cisgendered. I have a new label to put on the tin.

Wait, does that make me a cisvestite and therefore a cissy? Can I start calling myself a cissy and get all offended when... wait, what exactly is going on again? Jesus.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

A lot of it's here in the old threads.

Point addressed in my previous post.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Also if we're going to define it as LGBTWDKNVFUIOHGWEJKBADMV:PODJVUOIGESHF VKJVOPIDJVIUOSGDFJHSDOVIHSDU, why not call it the "Everyone Except The Heterosexual and Closet Case Assholes Club"?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Or you know, I could just refer to myself as bisexual rather than alphabet soup and define myself along supergroup terms. I take it back. Since I'm not L, G, T, A, Q, or anything else implied here but B, then I'll go with B, since my solidarity with the rest should be implied.

[hooplala]

I thought this was pretty amusing, from the article which started the whole kerfuffle:

And second, what gives him the right to appropriate that term?

The author is referring to drag queen "Payless", who's catch phrase is "hot tranny mess"... so, a drag queen is 'appropriating' the word 'tranny'.  Uh huh.  The word appropriate has now lost all meaning.

[hooplala]

And Rupaul, is apparently "the king of transphobic comments."

Surely not Fred Phelps, or Rush Limbaugh... nope... Rupaul.

[hooplala]

And is that Phox arguing in that thread?  When did she go nuts?

[Pæs]

SOMEONE TELL ME WHEN IDENTITY POLITICIANS AGREE SO I CAN DO WHATEVER THEY SAY THE RIGHT THING IS.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

And is that Phox arguing in that thread?  When did she go nuts?

:sigh:

I'm going to have to read this thread now, aren't I?

[hooplala]

And is that Phox arguing in that thread?  When did she go nuts?

:sigh:

I'm going to have to read this thread now, aren't I?

I now suspect I may have been wrong about one of the participants being Phox.

[Salty]

No, it was.

Sadly, Phox does not approve of the tone used by all us Nigels.

This is a trend, it seems.

[hooplala]

No, it was.

Sadly, Phox does not approve of the tone used by all us Nigels.

This is a trend, it seems.

Perhaps we should all change our names to numbered variations of Nigel.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

People know they are angry, but they don't know what to be angry about.

This ain't about anger, it's about control.

I'm not sure I agree just yet, but I can see where one would formulate that viewpoint.

I'm pretty sure he's spot-on.

The reason? The outrage isn't centered around what other people are calling group A. The outrage is about what group B is calling themselves. Group A is trying to tell group B that they don't have a right to the word they use to identify themselves.

Hence, it's about control.

You both make excellent points. I guess it goes back to Roger's "Traitor" post.

I would have an entirely different reaction to it if the argument was "STOP CALLING US TRANNIES". That's completely valid; everyone should have a right to be addressed as they feel comfortable. But it isn't; it's "THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO STOP CALLING THEMSELVES TRANNIES".