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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, November 27, 2013, 04:52:34 PM

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Ben Shapiro

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 28, 2013, 01:34:50 AM
Twid, it's not just gay dudes who like drag shows.

You really have to trust me on this one.

He's right! My wife loves Ru Pauls drag race, and one of best friends likes to do drag for fun he feels alive on stage. Sometimes I watch it since I admire the endless technique on make-up alone.  Drag really is a art.

Ben Shapiro

Quote from: Cain on November 28, 2013, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: Rex Bologna on November 27, 2013, 10:04:36 PM
And Rupaul, is apparently "the king of transphobic comments."

Surely not Fred Phelps, or Rush Limbaugh... nope... Rupaul.

Surely the queen of transphobic statements?

:golfclap:

Cain

I found an argument even dumber than this one on (where else) tumblr:

http://chaotically-neutral.tumblr.com/post/80227762955/plansfornigel-pro-choice-or-no-voice

Transgender women are just "men in dresses" trying to infiltrate and control the TROO feminist movement, as part of a sinister MRA conspiracy.

I know this an old complaint among the fringe radical feminist movement, but it's worth highlighting that this nonsense is STILL out there.

Faust

Look they haven't marginalised or excluded every supporter yet so they have to raise the entry requirements. "Feminism"* is an elite organisation that cant have any old riff raff wandering in the door.









*"Feminism" as opposed to feminism is what is practised by people who rather then being interested in empowerment of women, are more interested in telling everyone within their circle of influence on the internet how they are doing it wrong. Like slactivism, but toxic.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
I found an argument even dumber than this one on (where else) tumblr:

http://chaotically-neutral.tumblr.com/post/80227762955/plansfornigel-pro-choice-or-no-voice

Transgender women are just "men in dresses" trying to infiltrate and control the TROO feminist movement, as part of a sinister MRA conspiracy.

I know this an old complaint among the fringe radical feminist movement, but it's worth highlighting that this nonsense is STILL out there.

I love this.  But I'm weird.

I seem to remember RAW making fun of this very idea in Schroedinger's Cat.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

The organisation for equal rights does not endorse equal rights membership

Do as I say? :kingmeh:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 05:46:05 PM
The organisation for equal rights does not endorse equal rights membership

I told you bastards that time broke in 2009...I fail to see how ANY of this is a surprise.  It's wormholes all the way down.

 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

I mean, back in the future, marginalized people wanted as many allies as they could get.  Now it's running backwards, and it's all a question of who is worthy of helping.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

You have assholes like THIS affecting the way the real world works, to some degree or another:

http://issuehawk.com/tamar/2014/03/20/republican-supporter-men-should-not-have-to-wait-until-women-are-in-mood-to-have-sex.html

So the fucking OBVIOUS thing to do is IGNORE THAT and FUCK WITH ANYONE WHO DEVIATES FROM THE MOST EXTREME PARTY LINE IN QUESTION.

Frankly, it's getting REALLY HARD to TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

This is what happens when a movement becomes trendy.  You get the nuts and the flakes and the zealots, all shouting down the people who want to make things BETTER, and the entire movement suffers for it.

Is LGBT activism bad?  Of course not.  But people using LGBT activism to show that they're the baboon with the biggest, reddest ass in the pack IS.

Is feminism bad?  Of course not.  See above.

Same thing goes for damn near anything.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO


The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

It's like some kind of horrible trainwreck, I can't stop looking at it.

On the one hand, we have assholes like Mitch McRap-,uh, McConnell.  And on the other hand...we have assholes like "plansfornigel" and Parker Marie Molloy and even though I'm pretty sure neither represents a majority opinion, let alone a moral one, both seem to have a lot of time and dedication to being complete assholes and potential for altering the terms of debate for the worse.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2014, 06:02:46 PM

This is what happens when a movement becomes trendy.  You get the nuts and the flakes and the zealots, all shouting down the people who want to make things BETTER, and the entire movement suffers for it.

Is LGBT activism bad?  Of course not.  But people using LGBT activism to show that they're the baboon with the biggest, reddest ass in the pack IS.

Is feminism bad?  Of course not.  See above.

Same thing goes for damn near anything.

Totally. This is my whole thing with "isms" It all sounds great at the start but, by the time the movement reaches the inevitable "dumbfuck" phase of it's lifecycle, you're left wearing an "I AM FUCKING RETARD" teeshirt.

I believe women deserve to be treated the same way as men. I strive to treat women the same way I treat men, although, to my shame, I still can't bring myself to punch them unconscious when they piss me off.

However, I am not, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a feminist.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2014, 06:02:46 PM

This is what happens when a movement becomes trendy.  You get the nuts and the flakes and the zealots, all shouting down the people who want to make things BETTER, and the entire movement suffers for it.

Is LGBT activism bad?  Of course not.  But people using LGBT activism to show that they're the baboon with the biggest, reddest ass in the pack IS.

Is feminism bad?  Of course not.  See above.

Same thing goes for damn near anything.

Totally. This is my whole thing with "isms" It all sounds great at the start but, by the time the movement reaches the inevitable "dumbfuck" phase of it's lifecycle, you're left wearing an "I AM FUCKING RETARD" teeshirt.

I believe women deserve to be treated the same way as men. I strive to treat women the same way I treat men, although, to my shame, I still can't bring myself to punch them unconscious when they piss me off.

However, I am not, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a feminist.

If by "feminist", you mean people like Nigel or Gloria Steinem, then call me a feminist, though "egilitarian" is more accurate.  I believe that if you can demand equal rights, you have them.  The problem then is making the moral reality a social reality.

If, on the other hand, you mean people like Garbo or tumblr nation, then I guess I'm a grunting caveman who isn't listening.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
However, I am not, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a feminist.

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:19:03 PM

I believe women deserve to be treated the same way as men. I strive to treat women the same way I treat men, although, to my shame, I still can't bring myself to punch them unconscious when they piss me off.


Too late!