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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, November 27, 2013, 04:52:34 PM

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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2014, 06:02:46 PM

This is what happens when a movement becomes trendy.  You get the nuts and the flakes and the zealots, all shouting down the people who want to make things BETTER, and the entire movement suffers for it.

Is LGBT activism bad?  Of course not.  But people using LGBT activism to show that they're the baboon with the biggest, reddest ass in the pack IS.

Is feminism bad?  Of course not.  See above.

Same thing goes for damn near anything.

Totally. This is my whole thing with "isms" It all sounds great at the start but, by the time the movement reaches the inevitable "dumbfuck" phase of it's lifecycle, you're left wearing an "I AM FUCKING RETARD" teeshirt.

I believe women deserve to be treated the same way as men. I strive to treat women the same way I treat men, although, to my shame, I still can't bring myself to punch them unconscious when they piss me off.

However, I am not, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a feminist.

If by "feminist", you mean people like Nigel or Gloria Steinem, then call me a feminist, though "egilitarian" is more accurate.  I believe that if you can demand equal rights, you have them.  The problem then is making the moral reality a social reality.

If, on the other hand, you mean people like Garbo or tumblr nation, then I guess I'm a grunting caveman who isn't listening.

I should probably clarify that I don't necessarily think feminism is retarded. It's a matter of signal to noise. A point is reached where the noise is louder than the signal. When people who identify as feminists have to waste buckets of their time explaining that feminism doesn't mean all that retarded shit that everyone else thinks feminism is.

It's a two pronged attack - you have the baboon feminists messing up the ism from the inside, like a cancer, then you have the detractors who badmouth it, both dickwads, caught in a feedback loop. There comes a point where identifying with the ism is self defeating.

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:36:15 PM
When people who identify as feminists have to waste buckets of their time explaining that feminism doesn't mean all that retarded shit that everyone else thinks feminism is.

Problem isolated.

And, as you imply, it would be a lot harder for Rush Limbaugh to pull his shit if he wasn't getting help from the extremists.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 05:46:05 PM
The organisation for equal rights does not endorse equal rights membership

Do as I say? :kingmeh:

What organization? Tumblr?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

tumblr is the worst organisation ever.

They don't even serve tea at the general assembly meetings.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 24, 2014, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
However, I am not, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a feminist.

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:19:03 PM

I believe women deserve to be treated the same way as men. I strive to treat women the same way I treat men, although, to my shame, I still can't bring myself to punch them unconscious when they piss me off.


Too late!

:lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:36:15 PMWhen people who identify as feminists have to waste buckets of their time explaining that feminism doesn't mean all that retarded shit that everyone else thinks feminism is.

Yeah, I spend soooo much time doing this. 

Oh wait.

:lol:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
tumblr is the worst organisation ever.

They don't even serve tea at the general assembly meetings.

Last time I tried to vote for policy changes they just ignored me.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2014, 06:36:15 PM

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It's a two pronged attack - you have the baboon feminists messing up the ism from the inside, like a cancer, then you have the detractors who badmouth it, both dickwads, caught in a feedback loop. There comes a point where identifying with the ism is self defeating.

To be fair, I was once lead to believe that a female baboon is good to have around the temple for traditional time-keeping and synchronization with lunar calendars. 

Cain

I know, I'm unheathily addicted to this topic:

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/04/rupaul.html

It seems Ms Malloy has a real problem with Ru Paul.  And objectivity.  And drag queens.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
I know, I'm unheathily addicted to this topic:

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/04/rupaul.html

It seems Ms Malloy has a real problem with Ru Paul.  And objectivity.  And drag queens.

I'm glad Andrea wrote that, and it breaks my heart to see narrow-minded cishet men who have transformed themselves into narrow-minded translesbians targeting the old guard who have worked hardest, faced the most danger from society, and done the most to promote social acceptance, for their hatred and bigotry.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Salty

Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
I know, I'm unheathily addicted to this topic:

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/04/rupaul.html

It seems Ms Malloy has a real problem with Ru Paul.  And objectivity.  And drag queens.

That was really well said.

This is all sort of new to me, what in the fuck is wrong with these people? You have to look into your own reflection in the mirror and ask yourself, "Do I hate Ru Paul?" If the answer is yes you may want to question what you're doing with your life.
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Anyone who hates RuPaul would want to eviscerate me, so I can't agree with the pury out of self-defense.

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I may even have to start reading Boing Boing again now.  I sorta gave up on that place when it became the Xeni Jardin and Cory Doctorow Show.  I mean, Cory's great and all, but not all day every day.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2014, 01:15:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
I know, I'm unheathily addicted to this topic:

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/04/rupaul.html

It seems Ms Malloy has a real problem with Ru Paul.  And objectivity.  And drag queens.

I'm glad Andrea wrote that, and it breaks my heart to see narrow-minded cishet men who have transformed themselves into narrow-minded translesbians targeting the old guard who have worked hardest, faced the most danger from society, and done the most to promote social acceptance, for their hatred and bigotry.

:lulz:

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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2014, 01:15:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
I know, I'm unheathily addicted to this topic:

http://boingboing.net/2014/04/04/rupaul.html

It seems Ms Malloy has a real problem with Ru Paul.  And objectivity.  And drag queens.

I'm glad Andrea wrote that, and it breaks my heart to see narrow-minded cishet men who have transformed themselves into narrow-minded translesbians targeting the old guard who have worked hardest, faced the most danger from society, and done the most to promote social acceptance, for their hatred and bigotry.

I woke up this morning to my twitter feed containing a mixture of rants and discussion about that article, from the other perspective. (I didn't know Andrea or Mallory existed yesterday.) Apparently the "young guard" (??) bears a lot of resentment to the old guard, and claim the old guard is/was gender policing young trans people, e.g., that you must be attracted to men to be a real trans woman (b/c all women are attracted to men or something?)
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