Yeahhhhh

[Faust]

Okay, stepping my foot in it in hopes that I come out of this less stupid: what's the deal with the "you're white" one? I can imagine contexts in which it becomes offensive (i.e. "that can't be your dad, you're white" or "what do you mean you celebrate kwanza with your bi-racial family, you're white") but I can see others where I would still say or think that at someone and think that I was in the right. I mean, that girl holding the sign is whiter than the snow in Vermont. She may have a biological parent that's another race, or she might be the whitest person in Mexico, or she might be adopted into a family of another race, but that is not the face of a person who is going to see a lot of racial discrimination in her lifetime. She's not going to get pulled over for driving while black. No one is going to assume she's a terrorist at the airport (any more than the norm).

I dunno. I'm stuck on that one, which probably means I'm wrong about something.

Perhaps "white" isn't her preferred self identification label.

Can you be transracial as well as transgender?

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[hooplala]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

[hooplala]

Okay, stepping my foot in it in hopes that I come out of this less stupid: what's the deal with the "you're white" one? I can imagine contexts in which it becomes offensive (i.e. "that can't be your dad, you're white" or "what do you mean you celebrate kwanza with your bi-racial family, you're white") but I can see others where I would still say or think that at someone and think that I was in the right. I mean, that girl holding the sign is whiter than the snow in Vermont. She may have a biological parent that's another race, or she might be the whitest person in Mexico, or she might be adopted into a family of another race, but that is not the face of a person who is going to see a lot of racial discrimination in her lifetime. She's not going to get pulled over for driving while black. No one is going to assume she's a terrorist at the airport (any more than the norm).

I dunno. I'm stuck on that one, which probably means I'm wrong about something.

Perhaps "white" isn't her preferred self identification label.

Can you be transracial as well as transgender?

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Oh, you are giving me evil ideas.

[Faust]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

[hooplala]

Okay, stepping my foot in it in hopes that I come out of this less stupid: what's the deal with the "you're white" one? I can imagine contexts in which it becomes offensive (i.e. "that can't be your dad, you're white" or "what do you mean you celebrate kwanza with your bi-racial family, you're white") but I can see others where I would still say or think that at someone and think that I was in the right. I mean, that girl holding the sign is whiter than the snow in Vermont. She may have a biological parent that's another race, or she might be the whitest person in Mexico, or she might be adopted into a family of another race, but that is not the face of a person who is going to see a lot of racial discrimination in her lifetime. She's not going to get pulled over for driving while black. No one is going to assume she's a terrorist at the airport (any more than the norm).

I dunno. I'm stuck on that one, which probably means I'm wrong about something.

Or perhaps she's Jewish?  I know a few who don't consider themselves "white".

[hooplala]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

No idea.  We have about 4 latinos in Toronto. 

All our Garcias are Phillipino.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

[Faust]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

So it's a pejorative name like Paddy?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

So it's a pejorative name like Paddy?

I'm thinking it's a matter of swapping out a common Spanish language last name with a common Spanish last name. It would be like calling Sean O'Connor by the name Sean O'Brien. I'm not sure exactly how that's microaggression myself since people screw up people's names.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

So it's a pejorative name like Paddy?

No, it'd be more like calling an English guy Dan Smith when his last name is Knightley, because people from England have last names like Smith and you can't be bothered to check what his actual name is. There's no history of Garcia being used as a pejorative, it's just a lazy motherfucker lumping all Hispanic people in a pile so he can stop thinking about them.

[Faust]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

So it's a pejorative name like Paddy?

No, it'd be more like calling an English guy Dan Smith when his last name is Knightley, because people from England have last names like Smith and you can't be bothered to check what his actual name is. There's no history of Garcia being used as a pejorative, it's just a lazy motherfucker lumping all Hispanic people in a pile so he can stop thinking about them.

Ok, I get it. So, Like Paddy. That's where paddy comes from, it is a first name as opposed to last name used to lump all the Irish in together.

[Suu]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

So it's a pejorative name like Paddy?

Not necessarily, just someone not paying attention when they saw a Hispanic name.

I got the "But you're white" one a lot when I was married to a Puerto Rican, because I had a Hispanic last name.

[LMNO]

Crossposting because I was on the pot:

So, if one's reaction was along the lines of, "Huh. Wasn't expecting that," would that still be considered microagression?

Because, as we've discussed, we all have some sort of narrative in our heads, and that narrative is often wrong.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

What's with the Garcia one as well I don't get it.

His last name isn't Garcia.

Is that a really common name over there? I don't know any Spanish Garcia's.

It's apparently of Basque origin and is common in a Spanish speaking country near you (general you, not you specifically).

So it's a pejorative name like Paddy?

Not necessarily, just someone not paying attention when they saw a Hispanic name.

I got the "But you're white" one a lot when I was married to a Puerto Rican, because I had a Hispanic last name.

Yeah, I'm more inclined to think it's this.

One of my ex's father used to call me Steve because he knew there was a v in the middle there somewhere.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Okay, stepping my foot in it in hopes that I come out of this less stupid: what's the deal with the "you're white" one? I can imagine contexts in which it becomes offensive (i.e. "that can't be your dad, you're white" or "what do you mean you celebrate kwanza with your bi-racial family, you're white") but I can see others where I would still say or think that at someone and think that I was in the right. I mean, that girl holding the sign is whiter than the snow in Vermont. She may have a biological parent that's another race, or she might be the whitest person in Mexico, or she might be adopted into a family of another race, but that is not the face of a person who is going to see a lot of racial discrimination in her lifetime. She's not going to get pulled over for driving while black. No one is going to assume she's a terrorist at the airport (any more than the norm).

I dunno. I'm stuck on that one, which probably means I'm wrong about something.

Most likely it's that she's mixed-race and just happened to get mostly pale pigmentation. My son is the same way; doesn't identify as white, but has pale skin and blue eyes.

It's only offensive if someone insists that you're white even though you've told them your nonwhite racial or ethnic identity. I've had people do that to me, or tell me that I "don't HAVE to tell people" I'm part Black, because "no one would ever know".

Still, I tend not to assume that someone's white unless they tell me they are.