Q: Was there good music in the 1980s? A: YES.

[hooplala]

"If you were to take all the lyrics I've ever written and analyze how many songs are about `women in demeaning positions,' as opposed to `men in demaning positions' you would find that most of the songs are about stupid men.
The songs I write about women are not gratuitous attacks on them, but statements of fact. The song ``Jewish Princess'' caused the Anti- Defamation League of the B'nai B'rith to complain bitterly and demand an apology. I did not apologize then and refuse to do so now because, unlike `The Unicorn', such creatures do exist - and deserve to be `commemorated' with their own special opus.

The basic function of any ethnic protective PR organization is to do what Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-California) suggested on the `Larry King show' - ``maintain the fiction.'' (He used it in context of protecting the Reagan administration during the Iran-contra scandal, suggesting it was our duty as Americans to support the President by looking the other way.)

Italians have an organization to `maintain the fiction' that no Italians are in the Mafia, nor do they sell drugs while engaging in murder for hire. If you want to believe that, fine - welcome to Fantasy Land. If you want to believe that wrestling is real, go for it - and if you want to believe that women are a wonderful species that: 1 never goes to the toilet; 2 can't possibly do anything wrong; 3 is completely superior to men, then believe it - whatever makes you feel good."

from The Real Frank Zappa Book, Chapter Am I A 'Sexist' - Or What?

I find that persuasive. How about you? Also, I would think you'd agree with quite a lot of the ideology of Joe's Garage (I mean the anti-cenzorship, anti-authoritarian angle and the to me hilarious lampooning of the powers that is the Central Scrutinizer), so what's your problem? Catholic Girls? (must admit, I never liked vol. 2&3, so please mention a more offensive song from vol. 1, if you can.) Or is it the song about VD? But it's all parody, is it not? Frank Zappa was of the opinion, I think, that practically everyone is full of shit, himself nominally included, though actually, the situation was somewhat different, which is, all things considered, pretty... Discordian. 

Start a new thread, dickhead, don't shit this one up.

But, while I'm here, Crew Slut is a hell of a lot more sexist than Catholic Girls.  And you didn't touch on the homophobia which drips all over Stick it Out and Syborg.  Fucksack.

[LMNO]

And hopefully, you can easily see through the argument of "since one person acts this way, it's fine to use stereotypes."

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Once in a blue moon, Zappa would have an Important Idea. The bulk of what he did was crap. Kind of like a poor man's Crowley, IMHO.

[Dildo Argentino]

And hopefully, you can easily see through the argument of "since one person acts this way, it's fine to use stereotypes."

It is fine to use stereotypes. After all, we're mostly entirely stereotypical, and not special snowflakes, right?

It's just not fine to overuse them.

[hooplala]

More, please.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And hopefully, you can easily see through the argument of "since one person acts this way, it's fine to use stereotypes."

It is fine to use stereotypes. After all, we're mostly entirely stereotypical, and not special snowflakes, right?

It's just not fine to overuse them.

[LMNO]

More, please.

You bet. It sucks how life can get in the way of these projects, y'know?

[hooplala]

More, please.

You bet. It sucks how life can get in the way of these projects, y'know?

Oh I know... not cracking the whip, just making sure it stays in your mind and doesn't slip to page 5 or some shit.