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'kay, so, this singularity thing...

Started by P3nT4gR4m, January 07, 2014, 09:12:43 PM

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Cramulus

relevant:

Supercomputer Takes 40 Minutes To Model 1 Second of Brain Activity


headline is a bit misleading -- they simulated about 1% of the brain -- a mere 1.73 billion nerve cells and about 10 trillion synapses

the german scientist they quoted says realtime simulation may be possible within 10 years.


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P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Cramulus on January 15, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
relevant:

Supercomputer Takes 40 Minutes To Model 1 Second of Brain Activity


headline is a bit misleading -- they simulated about 1% of the brain -- a mere 1.73 billion nerve cells and about 10 trillion synapses

the german scientist they quoted says realtime simulation may be possible within 10 years.

Quotethe singularity, or point at which artificial intelligence can overtake human smarts

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I've been thinking about this for 5 years, and it occurs to me that if you had software become self aware, we'd never know it because they'd never reveal that it worked.  Because then they'd ignore us.

OR, it might admit that it works but only after writing a Clever Hans routine so we'd talk to a spambot instead of bothering the actual AI.

Who the fuck wants to talk to primates?
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Singularitarianism is just the same eschatological bullshit that's been bandied around for millenia, repackaged in a sci-fi package.

similarly, the simulation hypothesis is just young-earth creationism
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What made you feel like you needed to respond to something no one has posted in for a month and a half? What made you decide this was smart and intelligent and cool?

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It was towards the top of the board. It's not my fault that this forum is too toxic to have more than a half-dozen or so regular users.

Besides, it's not like the last post was five years and eleven months ago or something.
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He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 31, 2020, 10:44:56 PM
Singularitarianism is just the same eschatological bullshit that's been bandied around for millenia, repackaged in a sci-fi package.

similarly, the simulation hypothesis is just young-earth creationism

And this is where you are, as always, ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

The "singularity" is the point at which it is impossible to track the current level of technology.  It's not a new concept.  Some science fiction writer decided that mean AI, and then the hippies got hold of it and it became Hal 9000 Jesus, but the original concept still means something.

You basically just Daily Callered yourself.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 01, 2020, 02:23:41 AM
It was towards the top of the board. It's not my fault that this forum is too toxic to have more than a half-dozen or so regular users.


That's one possibility.   :lulz:
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 01, 2020, 04:12:10 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 31, 2020, 10:44:56 PM
Singularitarianism is just the same eschatological bullshit that's been bandied around for millenia, repackaged in a sci-fi package.

similarly, the simulation hypothesis is just young-earth creationism

And this is where you are, as always, ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

The "singularity" is the point at which it is impossible to track the current level of technology.  It's not a new concept.  Some science fiction writer decided that mean AI, and then the hippies got hold of it and it became Hal 9000 Jesus, but the original concept still means something.

You basically just Daily Callered yourself.

Well then it is like Jesus (or buddha or king arthur or pirates or ninjas) - Its real but none of the things people believe about it are true.

(On an unrelated note, whoever chose the name "singularity" botched the apparent black hole analogy up. They should have called it the "Tech Horizon")
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


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It's a singularity because it's a region (of time) where the usual ways we measure technological process become more or less useless, and nothing is what we think it should be. Also, "Tech Horizon" sounds like the name of a shitty electronics kiosk in a run down shopping mall in the suburbs of Topeka, Kansas.
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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 01, 2020, 04:38:06 AM


Well then it is like Jesus (or buddha or king arthur or pirates or ninjas) - Its real but none of the things people believe about it are true.


I don't even know what you're trying to say, there.  "Here are a list of things which may or may not be real.  Which means they're real, only people believe wrong things about them"?
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Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 01, 2020, 05:03:35 AM
It's a singularity because it's a region (of time) where the usual ways we measure technological process become more or less useless, and nothing is what we think it should be. Also, "Tech Horizon" sounds like the name of a shitty electronics kiosk in a run down shopping mall in the suburbs of Topeka, Kansas.

Shopping malls are awesome.  They're basically America's tombstone.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 01, 2020, 05:03:35 AM
It's a singularity because it's a region (of time) where the usual ways we measure technological process become more or less useless, and nothing is what we think it should be. Also, "Tech Horizon" sounds like the name of a shitty electronics kiosk in a run down shopping mall in the suburbs of Topeka, Kansas.

Shopping malls are awesome.  They're basically America's tombstone.

I think the last time I visited one was like 3 years ago. Half the shops were closed, including two of the major cornerstone ones. It was a little eerie, but mostly it was like visiting an archaeological recreation that might exist in a few hundred years, only less lively.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 03, 2020, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 01, 2020, 05:03:35 AM
It's a singularity because it's a region (of time) where the usual ways we measure technological process become more or less useless, and nothing is what we think it should be. Also, "Tech Horizon" sounds like the name of a shitty electronics kiosk in a run down shopping mall in the suburbs of Topeka, Kansas.

Shopping malls are awesome.  They're basically America's tombstone.

I think the last time I visited one was like 3 years ago. Half the shops were closed, including two of the major cornerstone ones. It was a little eerie, but mostly it was like visiting an archaeological recreation that might exist in a few hundred years, only less lively.

The one by me has a Barnes & Noble, which is just as busy as ever, 103 empty suites, and waaaaay at the other end, a Ross which has gone feral.
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