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Alabama outdoes even Arizona. Holy shit.

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, January 30, 2014, 04:47:37 PM

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Reginald Ret

#15
January 30, 2014, 10:14:39 PM
Quote from: Penumbral on January 30, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Most doctors are more rational then this bill. There is nothing stating that they can't help. I would be surprised to see a single case of someone not getting treatment for a miscarriage due to this bill, even in Alabama.
Dude... you are dealing with humans. It is not a spectrum between good and bad, it is between bad and worse. Remember Dresden? Yeah those were the good guys.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#16
January 30, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Penumbral on January 30, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Most doctors are more rational then this bill. There is nothing stating that they can't help. I would be surprised to see a single case of someone not getting treatment for a miscarriage due to this bill, even in Alabama.

What the fuck are you smoking?

QuoteAlso this bill is unlikely to pass.

What the fuck are you smoking?

QuoteInsane bills get proposed all the time. People get elected on insane platforms and they write bills that go nowhere. Not saying I have hope for the country or the legislative system but most things this horrendous that get through the state house get stopped or overturned.

Overturned, you say?  After only how many women die in the period between it becoming a law, and then staggering through the courts?

And I have to laugh at this point, Penumbral, at the very idea of you lecturing me on politics and how fucking weird middle America can get.  I am sorry if you have recently converted to republicanism and are thus butthurt or something, but WEIRDER BILLS THAN THIS GET PASSED EVERY FUCKING DAY.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#17
January 30, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
Not that I expect a response, of course.  At least not for several months or years.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#18
January 30, 2014, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: Penumbral on January 30, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Most doctors are more rational then this bill. There is nothing stating that they can't help. I would be surprised to see a single case of someone not getting treatment for a miscarriage due to this bill, even in Alabama.

Also this bill is unlikely to pass.

Insane bills get proposed all the time. People get elected on insane platforms and they write bills that go nowhere. Not saying I have hope for the country or the legislative system but most things this horrendous that get through the state house get stopped or overturned.

Seems like this bill probably flies directly in the face of State medical licensing, too.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Penumbral

#19
January 30, 2014, 10:54:53 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 30, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
And I have to laugh at this point, Penumbral, at the very idea of you lecturing me on politics and how fucking weird middle America can get.  I am sorry if you have recently converted to republicanism and are thus butthurt or something, but WEIRDER BILLS THAN THIS GET PASSED EVERY FUCKING DAY.

Not at all meant as a lecture. Just opinions. I personally don't think this bill will result in the deaths of any people, I am not trying to defend it or the people who wrote it.

Something like this has a lot more walls to run into, and I guess that I have hope that one of those walls might have some rationality to it. As you said maybe some people are just bad people. I, however, think that chain of ethically deficient people isn't strong enough in this case.

The Good Reverend Roger

#20
January 30, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: Penumbral on January 30, 2014, 10:54:53 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 30, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
And I have to laugh at this point, Penumbral, at the very idea of you lecturing me on politics and how fucking weird middle America can get.  I am sorry if you have recently converted to republicanism and are thus butthurt or something, but WEIRDER BILLS THAN THIS GET PASSED EVERY FUCKING DAY.

Not at all meant as a lecture. Just opinions. I personally don't think this bill will result in the deaths of any people, I am not trying to defend it or the people who wrote it.

Something like this has a lot more walls to run into, and I guess that I have hope that one of those walls might have some rationality to it. As you said maybe some people are just bad people. I, however, think that chain of ethically deficient people isn't strong enough in this case.

What country are you in, again?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#21
January 30, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 30, 2014, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: Penumbral on January 30, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Most doctors are more rational then this bill. There is nothing stating that they can't help. I would be surprised to see a single case of someone not getting treatment for a miscarriage due to this bill, even in Alabama.

Also this bill is unlikely to pass.

Insane bills get proposed all the time. People get elected on insane platforms and they write bills that go nowhere. Not saying I have hope for the country or the legislative system but most things this horrendous that get through the state house get stopped or overturned.

Seems like this bill probably flies directly in the face of State medical licensing, too.

This is the year of the Yahoo, Nigel.  There is no limit.

Mark my words.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

#22
January 30, 2014, 11:30:12 PM
I'm more inclined to go with "century of the Yahoo".
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The Good Reverend Roger

#23
January 30, 2014, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 30, 2014, 11:30:12 PM
I'm more inclined to go with "century of the Yahoo".

Trust me...The next 9 months are going to be fucking insane.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

#24
January 30, 2014, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 30, 2014, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 30, 2014, 11:30:12 PM
I'm more inclined to go with "century of the Yahoo".

Trust me...The next 9 months are going to be fucking insane.

Maybe the shit will get bad enough to just implode everything.
I'm just a regular Pollyanna today.
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East Coast Hustle

#25
January 30, 2014, 11:42:09 PM
Yeah, I gotta agree with Penumbral on this one. Hard to see the sky falling over a couple of hillbilly chuckleheads introducing a clearly illegal bill.
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Penumbral

#26
January 31, 2014, 12:17:41 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 30, 2014, 11:25:29 PM

What country are you in, again?

Country, I guess LA counts.

Left

#27
January 31, 2014, 01:23:00 AM
Quote from: Penumbral on January 30, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Most doctors are more rational then this bill.

This is Alabama we are talking about.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20131218/PROGRESS03/312180013/Editorial-Governor-s-refusal-expand-medicaid-makes-no-sense

Governor Robert Bentley refused Medicaid expansion money.  Is a retired doctor.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#28
January 31, 2014, 02:33:01 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 30, 2014, 11:42:09 PM
Yeah, I gotta agree with Penumbral on this one. Hard to see the sky falling over a couple of hillbilly chuckleheads introducing a clearly illegal bill.

Doesn't matter.  The premise is bullshit.  I just reread the bill.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#29
January 31, 2014, 04:16:49 AM
It's the era of clickbait. EVERYTHING is clickbait, these days.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

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