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Pergamos

Nabisco example, quoted for Burns.

Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 10, 2014, 07:41:38 PM
I think I get what you're saying.

These companies though, they will and have had their own agendas beyond ensuring increased shareholer profits. Many people in charge of these large organizations already do play this game, have been using their resources, which we give them, to further their own pet agendas.

Take Dominoes Pizza. I do not, ever order from there. Not only because it's disgusting, but because their CEO donates heavily to prolife organizations. This was something they do not broadcast on every box of pizza.

But if they did...it would be a hell of a lot easier to pick choose which shitty pizza place I want to order from.

It may be that I just want some god damned cheap pizze without the message that abortion is right or wrong, but the money I spend will fund one of those options, if it is a certain size.

We don't get to have secular, non-involved products. We are at the mercy of those who have the supply, and those meatsack have feelings, and those feelings transform into action. The only difference between now and then is the internet broadcasts this fairly critical information so fast, and somewhat accurately.

You walk into a grocery, you are beset by visible signs of the consequnces of your choice. This choice alredy existed, there are now companies who choose to market with pin-point accuracy and those who choose not to do so.

This trend will continue as long as corporations exist, but it is only removing the curtain, not creating the wizard.


That's a good point, and I guess we've gotta distinguish -- companies like Chick Fil A actually give money to anti-gay lobbying. So purchasing Chick Fil A is political, to a degree.

But a lot of these companies revenue is harder to connect to their causes.

Take Nabisco -- got a lot of attention (and probably sales) for waving a flag in favor of gay marriage.



but you know who they give money to? Mainly republicans. The top recipient of Nabisco money is Rick Fucking Santorum. http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/nabisco-brands-inc/181d3af138f74ba4844cd9d846729f55

And you'll see a similar story with a lot of the politicized brands.


That kind of thing is why I see these high profile corporate opinions as marketing and not activism. We don't want activism, we just want the spectacle surrounding it.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Brother Nihil on February 09, 2014, 01:44:21 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on February 09, 2014, 12:33:57 AM
Is it still a conspiracy when a plurality of the civilized world is on board and actively participating?

Are you being serious here? In reality of course it's a tiny minority that give a flying fuck about Russia's policy toward homosexuals. Entire continents and civilizations have absolutely no sympathy for what radprogs are trying to do there (Africa, the Middle East, much of Asia, etc.). It's really only small cliques within the West and their fellow travellers that push this shit around the world. Do yourself a favor and travel the world, experience non-Western cultures, do some simple math and get a rudimentary grasp of how the vast majority of people outside the Western Progressive bubble actually think.

Been there, done that. Probably since before you were even an unfortunately escaped sperm. And guess what? You're pretty much dead wrong. People are people, and most people are sincerely interested in bettering their own lives and the lives of those around them, frequently through acts of increasingly progressive (even if that term is relative to the society in question) legislation and social action.

So, y'know, maybe you could shut up now.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

P3nT4gR4m

When it comes to companies capitalising on some political or social agenda, I get where Cram is coming from but I'm a kinda pragmatic about it. ie - what's the net result? Google tries to increase its company profitability by cashing in on the russia/gay rights issue. Does this raise the profile of a cause that i agree with, amongst a demographic which, potentially might have been unaware? Probably yes. Ergo no harm - no foul.

Like it or not a large number of our fellow earthlings require to be spoonfed their opinions. In lieu of a magical unicorn using fairy dust to change this situation anytime soon, I'm all in favour of the zombies being programmed with some decent opinions for a change.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 12, 2014, 11:15:03 PM
When it comes to companies capitalising on some political or social agenda, I get where Cram is coming from but I'm a kinda pragmatic about it. ie - what's the net result? Google tries to increase its company profitability by cashing in on the russia/gay rights issue. Does this raise the profile of a cause that i agree with, amongst a demographic which, potentially might have been unaware? Probably yes. Ergo no harm - no foul.

Like it or not a large number of our fellow earthlings require to be spoonfed their opinions. In lieu of a magical unicorn using fairy dust to change this situation anytime soon, I'm all in favour of the zombies being programmed with some decent opinions for a change.
:lol:
Now that is cynicism done right!
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Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Pergamos on February 12, 2014, 08:09:02 PM
Nabisco example, quoted for Burns.

..........snip.......

I suppose I should have just gone back  :lol: thanks!  I didn't realize there was a link when I went through the first time.

Junkenstein

Sochi/pussy riot related:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26240794

QuoteTwo members of the protest group Pussy Riot say they have been arrested in the Russian resort of Sochi where the Winter Olympics are being held.

Maria Alyokhina and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, who were freed from jail in December, said they had been detained in the centre of the town on suspicion of a criminal offence.

Probably going to get interesting.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

Quote from: Brother Nihil on February 18, 2014, 04:50:27 PM
So to recap: Pussy Riot, who is widely despised in their homeland for their filthy antics, travels to the West, meets with many high level bourgeois bohemians and "progressives" (who are clearly sponsoring them in order to undermine Putin), then returns to Russia to attempt further provocations, just as a massive Western propaganda campaign to embarrass Putin at the Olympics has failed miserably.



QuoteThis is what the modern West has come to? Declining fast, yet promoting its brand of late Roman cultural decay and crudity around the world, and calling it progress? Does anyone still wonder why the Islamic world, and indeed most of the civilized world, hates you? Have you no dignity, decency or shame left, Western "progressives"?



QuoteIf these bitches want to be truly provocative and progressive, why don't they try their antics in a mosque, where the real forces of reaction, homophobia and sexism operate, and see how long they last? Oh that's right, they're Western progressives; they only attack Christians, because they're fucking hypocrites and cowards!


Bu🤠ns


Salty

The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Junkenstein

I'm just waiting for the follow up picture for when someone bites.  :lulz:
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

East Coast Hustle

I just noticed that he misspelled "deacon" in his personal title. He can't even get his soapbox decorated correctly. :lulz:
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Pæs

Quote from: Brother Nihil on February 18, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on February 18, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
I just noticed that he misspelled "deacon" in his personal title. He can't even get his soapbox decorated correctly. :lulz:

Try to be a little more clever (or at least respect those who are). "Decon" is a word I invented -- it's meaning shouldn't be hard to guess. I don't mispell words, friend; the last time I did was in the 6th grade, when I intentionally spelled earth "urth" just to spite my teacher, and the whole wretched liberal educational system she represented.

Salty

Quote from: Brother Nihil on February 18, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on February 18, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
I just noticed that he misspelled "deacon" in his personal title. He can't even get his soapbox decorated correctly. :lulz:

Try to be a little more clever (or at least respect those who are). "Decon" is a word I invented -- it's meaning shouldn't be hard to guess. I don't mispell words, friend; the last time I did was in the 6th grade, when, as the best speller in my school district, I intentionally spelled earth "urth" just to spite my teacher[,] and the whole wretched educational system she represented. Death to spelling bees and liberal indoctrination!

I know the misspelling was intentional, but those commas really bugged, me.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Pæs

Quote from: Alty on February 18, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on February 18, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on February 18, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
I just noticed that he misspelled "deacon" in his personal title. He can't even get his soapbox decorated correctly. :lulz:

Try to be a little more clever (or at least respect those who are). "Decon" is a word I invented -- it's meaning shouldn't be hard to guess. I don't mispell words, friend; the last time I did was in the 6th grade, when, as the best speller in my school district, I intentionally spelled earth "urth" just to spite my teacher[,] and the whole wretched educational system she represented. Death to spelling bees and liberal indoctrination!

I know the misspelling was intentional, but those commas really bugged, me.

Try to be a little more clever (or at least respect those who are). "mispell" is a word I invented -- it's meaning shouldn't be hard to guess. I don't make mistakes, friend. The last time I did was when I was ten, and I did it on purpose to terrorise, and subvert the expectations of my would-be oppressors, or parents, who were ignorant servants, of progressive Amerikka.