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Started by The Johnny, March 04, 2014, 02:13:05 AM

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The Johnny

March 04, 2014, 02:13:05 AM

http://indiauncut.com/iublog/article/38-ways-to-win-an-argument-arthur-schopenhauer/

QuoteFor all of you who have ever been involved in an online debate in any way, Arthur Schopenhauer's "38 Ways To Win An Argument" is indispensable. Most of these techniques will seem familiar to you, right from questioning the motive of a person making the argument instead of the argument itself (No. 35), exaggerating the propositions stated by the other person (No. 1) , misrepresenting the other person's words (No. 2) and attacking a straw man instead (No. 3). It's a full handbook of intellectual dishonesty there. Indeed, I generally avoid online debates because they inevitably degenerate to No. 38.

The full text is below the fold. Many thanks to my friend Nitin Pai for reintroducing me to it.

im sure most of us know this, but, in case anyone missed it, its a digested version of Schopenhauer's propositions
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Good Reverend Roger

#1
March 04, 2014, 02:14:38 AM
Yeah, you WOULD say that.












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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Johnny

#2
March 04, 2014, 02:28:48 AM
well, i didnt mean it in a snobbish sense of "oh, you newbies/ignorants SHOULD know about this" but rather was meant in an apologetic sense because i was supposing lots would consider it repost material.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Good Reverend Roger

#3
March 04, 2014, 02:29:45 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 04, 2014, 02:28:48 AM
well, i didnt mean it in a snobbish sense of "oh, you newbies/ignorants SHOULD know about this" but rather was meant in an apologetic sense because i was supposing lots would consider it repost material.

I was just playing off of #38.  Sorry.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Salty

#4
March 04, 2014, 02:34:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 02:29:45 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 04, 2014, 02:28:48 AM
well, i didnt mean it in a snobbish sense of "oh, you newbies/ignorants SHOULD know about this" but rather was meant in an apologetic sense because i was supposing lots would consider it repost material.

I was just playing off of #38.  Sorry.

You wield the art too well.  :lol:
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

The Johnny

#5
March 04, 2014, 04:58:34 AM
Miscommunication over the internets, nothing new  :)
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#6
March 04, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
 :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#7
March 04, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
I feel like this thread should get some kind of award for "Most Rapidly Resolved Ironic Misunderstanding in Peedee History".
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

carnival

#8
March 05, 2014, 06:24:43 AM
Schopenhauer is my favorite philosopher.

Reginald Ret

#9
March 07, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
I feel like this thread should get some kind of award for "Most Rapidly Resolved Ironic Misunderstanding in Peedee History".
In 57 seconds has to be a record.
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