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[P3nT4gR4m]

Small tech startup goes up against industry dinosaur? I'm reminded of Microsoft going up against IBM only Bill Gates is played by Godzilla 

When did Microsoft go up against IBM?

Not as much went up against. Just the way it turned out between the two over the whole Dos thing. Just a vague comparison. Out with the old, in with the new - kinda deal.

That was apple.  IBM didn't think there would be any money in software, so they had Gates do it so they could all get rich making desk tops.



The invisible hand:  It also jacks off.

That was what I was talking about. I always saw that deal as being gates just ripping the rug out from under IBM. They didn't even understand what was happening but he stitched them up. Gates new exactly where the money was and e pulled it out from under the leviathan's nose.

This will play out a different way but it's essentially the same loaded game that only one of the players even understands.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Small tech startup goes up against industry dinosaur? I'm reminded of Microsoft going up against IBM only Bill Gates is played by Godzilla 

When did Microsoft go up against IBM?

Not as much went up against. Just the way it turned out between the two over the whole Dos thing. Just a vague comparison. Out with the old, in with the new - kinda deal.

That was apple.  IBM didn't think there would be any money in software, so they had Gates do it so they could all get rich making desk tops.



The invisible hand:  It also jacks off.

That was what I was talking about. I always saw that deal as being gates just ripping the rug out from under IBM. They didn't even understand what was happening but he stitched them up. Gates new exactly where the money was and e pulled it out from under the leviathan's nose.

This will play out a different way but it's essentially the same loaded game that only one of the players even understands.

No, it was more that they went looking for a vendor.  They really, really didn't want to touch software.

There was even a very vocal segment of their board that said PCs were a fad and they should stick to electric typerwriters.

[P3nT4gR4m]

The way I see it is, if there's two sides striking a deal with the potential to make one side or the other billions of dollars, the one who walks away with the keys to the piggy bank is the winner. You're right. Some of the management didn't even think PC's would be a thing. That's how behind the ball they were. International Business Machines had absolutely no fucking idea what a business machine was at that point in their history. If they'd been anywhere near the business machine ballpark they would have secured exclusive rights to dos but, even then, I'm betting they wouldn't have had the sense to sell it to their "competition". In a sense, IBM gave away Microsoft.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The way I see it is, if there's two sides striking a deal with the potential to make one side or the other billions of dollars, the one who walks away with the keys to the piggy bank is the winner. You're right. Some of the management didn't even think PC's would be a thing. That's how behind the ball they were. International Business Machines had absolutely no fucking idea what a business machine was at that point in their history. If they'd been anywhere near the business machine ballpark they would have secured exclusive rights to dos but, even then, I'm betting they wouldn't have had the sense to sell it to their "competition". In a sense, IBM gave away Microsoft.

Well, sure.  They owned the rights to the kernel.  Which they GAVE to Bill Gates.  Free & clear.  Not just the right to use it, the rights to it in total.

Which was kind of like the Russians selling Alaska to America for a few bucks, back in the day.

[P3nT4gR4m]

The way I see it is, if there's two sides striking a deal with the potential to make one side or the other billions of dollars, the one who walks away with the keys to the piggy bank is the winner. You're right. Some of the management didn't even think PC's would be a thing. That's how behind the ball they were. International Business Machines had absolutely no fucking idea what a business machine was at that point in their history. If they'd been anywhere near the business machine ballpark they would have secured exclusive rights to dos but, even then, I'm betting they wouldn't have had the sense to sell it to their "competition". In a sense, IBM gave away Microsoft.

Well, sure.  They owned the rights to the kernel.  Which they GAVE to Bill Gates.  Free & clear.  Not just the right to use it, the rights to it in total.

Which was kind of like the Russians selling Alaska to America for a few bucks, back in the day.

So my original comment was a kind of vague, comparison of the different levels of acumen that's about to go head to head. Only, this time, the leviathan aint up against some college kid that knows how to hack Basic