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Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.

Yup! For me it comes down to this luddite argument that X-new tech is badwrong because fucking idiots will use it to Y. To my mind this is rarely (if ever) an argument against scientific and technological progress as much as an argument against fucking idiots.

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Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.

The fact that this chick dreamt it up in the first place points to her being a very disturbed individual.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Sita on March 20, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 05:09:26 AM
The Romulans (I think) did that shit to Chief O'Brien in DS9 (I think). It did not end well and it turned out he was innocent, but batshit. I don't think real live science should be taking its cues from crazy aliens on TV. This is not what we call 'improvement' or 'progress'. It's what we call WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Only with more frothing.
It was the Cardassians. And yeah, O'Brien only served a small portion of that sentence and was a bit unstable when he got out. Can't imagine what someone would be like after the full time.
O'Brien really got the awful end of things on DS9.

We were both wrong. It was the Argrathi. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)

But yeah. Ahem. Dumb idea.
Ah, yeah been a while since I saw that episode. But the Cards have done enough to him during the series it was easy to mix it up. Thanks for the link, btw. I shall now get hopelessly lost in the Trek wiki :lol:
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Sita on March 20, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 05:09:26 AM
The Romulans (I think) did that shit to Chief O'Brien in DS9 (I think). It did not end well and it turned out he was innocent, but batshit. I don't think real live science should be taking its cues from crazy aliens on TV. This is not what we call 'improvement' or 'progress'. It's what we call WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Only with more frothing.
It was the Cardassians. And yeah, O'Brien only served a small portion of that sentence and was a bit unstable when he got out. Can't imagine what someone would be like after the full time.
O'Brien really got the awful end of things on DS9.

We were both wrong. It was the Argrathi. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)

But yeah. Ahem. Dumb idea.

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Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.
Technically, magnetic pulses to certain parts of the brain can also speed or slow our perception of time, which would probably do less damage then drugging up prisoners minds
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I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

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Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 21, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.
Technically, magnetic pulses to certain parts of the brain can also speed or slow our perception of time, which would probably do less damage then drugging up prisoners minds

motherfuckin magnets, how do they work?
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Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 19, 2014, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 19, 2014, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Pæs on March 17, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
DEAR DOCTOR FUCKING MORON,

THE TECHNOLOGY YOU DESCRIBE GIVES US A PRACTICALLY UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF BRAIN POWER.

HOW'S ABOUT WE USE IT TO WORK OUT WAYS TO KEEP OURSELVES SAFE WITHOUT PRISONS?
Like, just offa the top of my head, we could use this to teach things to students that would otherwise take months of time in a matter of weeks(new languages, history, classic literature) but nah, lets fuck with prisoners instead

I'm with Celagoras.

I demand a LEGION of omnidisciplinary, multi-doctorate, completely insane 10 year olds.

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Quote from: The Johnny on March 21, 2014, 06:44:43 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 21, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.
Technically, magnetic pulses to certain parts of the brain can also speed or slow our perception of time, which would probably do less damage then drugging up prisoners minds

motherfuckin magnets, how do they work?
Transcranial magnetic pulses (TCM) are one of the newest alternatives to electroshock therapy, the principle being that they can do the same job as electroshock without the possibility of giving you amnesia afterwards. Since your neurons fire when they're charged a certain way, they can use magnets instead of electricity to stimulate parts of the brain that arent working correctly
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I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Johnny

Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 24, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 21, 2014, 06:44:43 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 21, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.
Technically, magnetic pulses to certain parts of the brain can also speed or slow our perception of time, which would probably do less damage then drugging up prisoners minds

motherfuckin magnets, how do they work?
Transcranial magnetic pulses (TCM) are one of the newest alternatives to electroshock therapy, the principle being that they can do the same job as electroshock without the possibility of giving you amnesia afterwards. Since your neurons fire when they're charged a certain way, they can use magnets instead of electricity to stimulate parts of the brain that arent working correctly

Interesting, ive always felt that electrical tampering with the brain would only equate to frying some "circuits".
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Johnny on March 24, 2014, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 24, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 21, 2014, 06:44:43 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 21, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
Quote from: Pæs on March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.
Technically, magnetic pulses to certain parts of the brain can also speed or slow our perception of time, which would probably do less damage then drugging up prisoners minds

motherfuckin magnets, how do they work?
Transcranial magnetic pulses (TCM) are one of the newest alternatives to electroshock therapy, the principle being that they can do the same job as electroshock without the possibility of giving you amnesia afterwards. Since your neurons fire when they're charged a certain way, they can use magnets instead of electricity to stimulate parts of the brain that arent working correctly

Interesting, ive always felt that electrical tampering with the brain would only equate to frying some "circuits".

I am not a doctor, so I really don't know, but it seems to me that running a higher voltage and/or current through any system than the system was designed for cannot help but damage the system.

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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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I'm neither a doctor or qualified in electricity but, for whatever my opinion is worth, I agree with you. I've fried processors, back in the old 486/jumper-voltages days and your controversial theory held true there as well.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

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Quote from: Sita on March 20, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 05:09:26 AM
The Romulans (I think) did that shit to Chief O'Brien in DS9 (I think). It did not end well and it turned out he was innocent, but batshit. I don't think real live science should be taking its cues from crazy aliens on TV. This is not what we call 'improvement' or 'progress'. It's what we call WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Only with more frothing.
It was the Cardassians. And yeah, O'Brien only served a small portion of that sentence and was a bit unstable when he got out. Can't imagine what someone would be like after the full time.
O'Brien really got the awful end of things on DS9.

It was the Argrathi, actually, (Villager and I watched that one on Sunday), and O'Brien was sentenced to 15 years for espionage that he wasn't guilty of, served 20 years because the guards "forgot" about him, and in real time it was only a matter of hours.

He was, however, brought on trial by the Cardassians for a separate reason. That reason being that scriptwriters like seeing O'Brien suffer.
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Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Sita on March 20, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on March 20, 2014, 05:09:26 AM
The Romulans (I think) did that shit to Chief O'Brien in DS9 (I think). It did not end well and it turned out he was innocent, but batshit. I don't think real live science should be taking its cues from crazy aliens on TV. This is not what we call 'improvement' or 'progress'. It's what we call WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Only with more frothing.
It was the Cardassians. And yeah, O'Brien only served a small portion of that sentence and was a bit unstable when he got out. Can't imagine what someone would be like after the full time.
O'Brien really got the awful end of things on DS9.

We were both wrong. It was the Argrathi. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)

But yeah. Ahem. Dumb idea.

Ah, you already caught that. Never mind.
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