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Started by Nephew Twiddleton, June 10, 2014, 03:15:25 AM

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Something about DS9 being a trek spinoff and the idea of boldly going where no one had gone before and then just hanging out there and not going anywhere else didn't sit right with me

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 11, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
Something about DS9 being a trek spinoff and the idea of boldly going where no one had gone before and then just hanging out there and not going anywhere else didn't sit right with me
:lulz:
Still a good show though, once you get through the first two seasons.
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Quote from: Regret on June 11, 2014, 10:14:04 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 11, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
Something about DS9 being a trek spinoff and the idea of boldly going where no one had gone before and then just hanging out there and not going anywhere else didn't sit right with me
:lulz:
Still a good show though, once you get through the first two seasons.

I would say the same for most Star Trek series.

I did love the first 2 seasons of Lexx, cheesy as it was.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 11, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
Something about DS9 being a trek spinoff and the idea of boldly going where no one had gone before and then just hanging out there and not going anywhere else didn't sit right with me

I liked that show at first.  Because of the constant maintenance problems.  Made it believable.
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Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 11, 2014, 04:33:24 PM
So what will change if you get him to watch Star Trek?

It will show me that he can open his mind about stuff, mainly. Dude's a geek, and geeks are pretty particular. If he hates Star Trek on its own merits, then that's just a matter of taste. But he's never even watched Star Trek because he thinks he's supposed to hate it. He's wearing a uniform, basically.

You're wearing a different uniform.

I've never seen Titanic or Rocky Horror Picture Show, and I probably never will because, well, shit, I've gone this long. Also because after I reached a certain point of just not ever happening to have seen them, people started in on the BUT OMG! YOU HAVE TO!

Do you actually LIKE your friend, or is he just a personal project?

I like him just fine.

See, I've seen both Titanic and Rocky Horror, but I've never gone, OMG  YOU HAVE TO because there's plenty of stuff that I haven't seen myself, nor will ever see because there's just too much stuff to watch. I also have plenty of friends whose opinions on Trek are totally unknown to me, or are indifferent to it. It's this guy's flat out refusal that caught my attention, and it was something that he brought up. If he'd said something like, "I haven't seen Star Trek, and I probably won't" I'd have been like, alright fair enough. But he said "I haven't seen Star Trek, and I won't because I'm a Star Wars fan." Which just strikes me as incredibly silly.

Sure, but so what? In the grand scheme of things, does his reason for not wanting to see it even matter?

The reason I ask is that it sounds like you're making a thing out of it, making it into some sort of big deal, when the guy just doesn't want to watch it. It doesn't really matter if his proffered reason is silly; I mean, maybe on some level he likes to say that because it makes people flip their shit trying to get him to watch it (that would be my reason for saying something like that, and in fact it makes me feel like I need to throw something like that in for next time someone goes "ZOMG I can't BELIEVE you've never seen Rocky Horror!").

If I'm misunderstanding and he's the one making a big deal out of it by constantly talking about how there's no way he'll ever watch Star Trek because he's a Star Wars fan, then I retract my comments.
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Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 12, 2014, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on June 11, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 11, 2014, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on June 11, 2014, 04:37:20 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 11, 2014, 04:33:24 PM
So what will change if you get him to watch Star Trek?

It will show me that he can open his mind about stuff, mainly. Dude's a geek, and geeks are pretty particular. If he hates Star Trek on its own merits, then that's just a matter of taste. But he's never even watched Star Trek because he thinks he's supposed to hate it. He's wearing a uniform, basically.

You're wearing a different uniform.

I've never seen Titanic or Rocky Horror Picture Show, and I probably never will because, well, shit, I've gone this long. Also because after I reached a certain point of just not ever happening to have seen them, people started in on the BUT OMG! YOU HAVE TO!

Do you actually LIKE your friend, or is he just a personal project?

I like him just fine.

See, I've seen both Titanic and Rocky Horror, but I've never gone, OMG  YOU HAVE TO because there's plenty of stuff that I haven't seen myself, nor will ever see because there's just too much stuff to watch. I also have plenty of friends whose opinions on Trek are totally unknown to me, or are indifferent to it. It's this guy's flat out refusal that caught my attention, and it was something that he brought up. If he'd said something like, "I haven't seen Star Trek, and I probably won't" I'd have been like, alright fair enough. But he said "I haven't seen Star Trek, and I won't because I'm a Star Wars fan." Which just strikes me as incredibly silly.

Sure, but so what? In the grand scheme of things, does his reason for not wanting to see it even matter?

The reason I ask is that it sounds like you're making a thing out of it, making it into some sort of big deal, when the guy just doesn't want to watch it. It doesn't really matter if his proffered reason is silly; I mean, maybe on some level he likes to say that because it makes people flip their shit trying to get him to watch it (that would be my reason for saying something like that, and in fact it makes me feel like I need to throw something like that in for next time someone goes "ZOMG I can't BELIEVE you've never seen Rocky Horror!").

If I'm misunderstanding and he's the one making a big deal out of it by constantly talking about how there's no way he'll ever watch Star Trek because he's a Star Wars fan, then I retract my comments.

Mostly I see it as a bit of banter. I actually have no expectation that I'll ever be able to get him to watch it. I wouldn't say that he talks about it constantly, but I started trying to sell him on it when he tried to sell me on watching something he liked, and I was like, tell you what, I'll watch that if you watch a Star Trek episode of my choosing, and he was like, "forget about it." And it just kinda went from there.
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Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on June 12, 2014, 01:28:31 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 12, 2014, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on June 11, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 11, 2014, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on June 11, 2014, 04:37:20 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 11, 2014, 04:33:24 PM
So what will change if you get him to watch Star Trek?

It will show me that he can open his mind about stuff, mainly. Dude's a geek, and geeks are pretty particular. If he hates Star Trek on its own merits, then that's just a matter of taste. But he's never even watched Star Trek because he thinks he's supposed to hate it. He's wearing a uniform, basically.

You're wearing a different uniform.

I've never seen Titanic or Rocky Horror Picture Show, and I probably never will because, well, shit, I've gone this long. Also because after I reached a certain point of just not ever happening to have seen them, people started in on the BUT OMG! YOU HAVE TO!

Do you actually LIKE your friend, or is he just a personal project?

I like him just fine.

See, I've seen both Titanic and Rocky Horror, but I've never gone, OMG  YOU HAVE TO because there's plenty of stuff that I haven't seen myself, nor will ever see because there's just too much stuff to watch. I also have plenty of friends whose opinions on Trek are totally unknown to me, or are indifferent to it. It's this guy's flat out refusal that caught my attention, and it was something that he brought up. If he'd said something like, "I haven't seen Star Trek, and I probably won't" I'd have been like, alright fair enough. But he said "I haven't seen Star Trek, and I won't because I'm a Star Wars fan." Which just strikes me as incredibly silly.

Sure, but so what? In the grand scheme of things, does his reason for not wanting to see it even matter?

The reason I ask is that it sounds like you're making a thing out of it, making it into some sort of big deal, when the guy just doesn't want to watch it. It doesn't really matter if his proffered reason is silly; I mean, maybe on some level he likes to say that because it makes people flip their shit trying to get him to watch it (that would be my reason for saying something like that, and in fact it makes me feel like I need to throw something like that in for next time someone goes "ZOMG I can't BELIEVE you've never seen Rocky Horror!").

If I'm misunderstanding and he's the one making a big deal out of it by constantly talking about how there's no way he'll ever watch Star Trek because he's a Star Wars fan, then I retract my comments.

Mostly I see it as a bit of banter. I actually have no expectation that I'll ever be able to get him to watch it. I wouldn't say that he talks about it constantly, but I started trying to sell him on it when he tried to sell me on watching something he liked, and I was like, tell you what, I'll watch that if you watch a Star Trek episode of my choosing, and he was like, "forget about it." And it just kinda went from there.

Sounds reasonable enough, then.
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Quote from: Alty on June 11, 2014, 11:26:59 PM
Quote from: Regret on June 11, 2014, 10:14:04 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 11, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
Something about DS9 being a trek spinoff and the idea of boldly going where no one had gone before and then just hanging out there and not going anywhere else didn't sit right with me
:lulz:
Still a good show though, once you get through the first two seasons.

I would say the same for most Star Trek series.

I did love the first 2 seasons of Lexx, cheesy as it was.
Lexx was totally over the top, that's what I liked best. and Zev was sooo fahckin' hawt! She was probably the main reason anyone had any sympathy for Stanley Tweedle at all. All through every episode, he's like a puppy looking for a leg to hump and knowing he's just going to end up licking his own balls in the corner again. But that Robot head quite often rescues some of the weaker episodes. I think Lexx and Farscape are less known in America because neither of them are American. 

I wasn't too sure about Farscape at first, it shouldn't have worked at all really, because it seemed to cobble lots of bits from lots of other Sci-fi shows together, but it was awesome. Especially Crichton's long messy descent into Skorpius induced insanity. The characterisation was far more 3 dimensional than Star Trek as well. When I first saw Rhygel, I thought fuck this, a Jim Henson Puppet is never going to be right, but he ended up more believable than many Trek stalwarts in much less time. But Claudia Black and Ben Browder's smouldering chemistry is what really stands out for me. Mostly because Claudia Black is so stunningly gorgeous. 

Dargo goes from stampy psychopathic shouty "Imma kill some fucker" to softly spoken, gentleman chivalrous warrior overnight when Chianna shows up, and he gets his leg over, that's funny. Skorpy becomes a well fleshed out character too, once he's got his feet under the table of Crichton's brainstem at least. The only complaint I have was that they cancelled the show too early and didn't have time for a decent ending.

Oh, and the unsung star of the show must be Dargo's prehensile tongue. :o WTF?
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I thought Lexx was pretty good for something that was basically soft-core sci-fi snuff porn.
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That's probably the best way to sum it up.

Which Zev by the way? They switched actors a few times.
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Quote from: Junkenstein on June 12, 2014, 10:42:33 PM
That's probably the best way to sum it up.

Which Zev by the way? They switched actors a few times.

BOTH.

But mostly the 2nd one.
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