Redskins' Trademark Revoked!!!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm surrounded by redskins fans right now.  Productivity has almost entirely been replaced by bitching.  And they still won't turn down the fucking smooth jazz.

I like how not being able to maintain franchise of a brazenly racist team name and mascot is somehow enough of a real problem for them to have grit in their panties over it.

The bitching comes in peaks and valleys whenever the subject becomes brought up by the media again.

The worst part is that the way they see it, the name is acceptable because it's part of their "football tradition".

Right, because to these people, "Because this is the way we've always done it" is a perfectly acceptable argument. 

[Suu]

In case anybody was wondering who's fault it was:

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/06/18/tyranny-update-obama-strips-washington-redskins-of-their-trademark/

It's a TYRANNY UPDATE even!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

In case anybody was wondering who's fault it was:

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/06/18/tyranny-update-obama-strips-washington-redskins-of-their-trademark/

It's a TYRANNY UPDATE even!

TYRANNY!!!

[Suu]

Hey Raz, send this to your squabbling coworkers. It's an article from December explaining the etymology of the word "redskin" with sources!

It's also interesting to see how it may not have started as a pejorative, but certainly is now. I love etymology, it's always so fascinating.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2013/12/18/redskins_the_debate_over_the_washington_football_team_s_name_incorrectly.html

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

I'm surrounded by redskins fans right now.  Productivity has almost entirely been replaced by bitching.  And they still won't turn down the fucking smooth jazz.

I like how not being able to maintain franchise of a brazenly racist team name and mascot is somehow enough of a real problem for them to have grit in their panties over it.

The best part about this approach is that there's absolutely no legitimate "OMG MY RIGHTZ!!!" argument to be made. They can hold on to the name if they want...they just lose trademark protections. Once If this clears appeals, the Redskins can carry on with their stubbornly racist name if they want, it's just that you and I can put that name and logo on anything we want and sell it without penalty.

And any "THEY TOOKED HIS PROPERTIEZ!!!!" is bunk, too, since this decision doesn't take anything...it just stops giving it. I've already had occasion to draw the parallel to "entitlement programs" in FB arguments on the topic.

"Oh, really? So you think that there shouldn't be standards for withholding government benefits from people who abuse them?"

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm surrounded by redskins fans right now.  Productivity has almost entirely been replaced by bitching.  And they still won't turn down the fucking smooth jazz.

I like how not being able to maintain franchise of a brazenly racist team name and mascot is somehow enough of a real problem for them to have grit in their panties over it.

The best part about this approach is that there's absolutely no legitimate "OMG MY RIGHTZ!!!" argument to be made. They can hold on to the name if they want...they just lose trademark protections. Once If this clears appeals, the Redskins can carry on with their stubbornly racist name if they want, it's just that you and I can put that name and logo on anything we want and sell it without penalty.

And any "THEY TOOKED HIS PROPERTIEZ!!!!" is bunk, too, since this decision doesn't take anything...it just stops giving it. I've already had occasion to draw the parallel to "entitlement programs" in FB arguments on the topic.

"Oh, really? So you think that there shouldn't be standards for withholding government benefits from people who abuse them?"

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Hey Raz, send this to your squabbling coworkers. It's an article from December explaining the etymology of the word "redskin" with sources!

It's also interesting to see how it may not have started as a pejorative, but certainly is now. I love etymology, it's always so fascinating.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2013/12/18/redskins_the_debate_over_the_washington_football_team_s_name_incorrectly.html

The funny thing is, I don't consider it a pejorative, I simply think that naming a sports team after a race and having as a mascot an exaggerated caricature of that race is, well, racist as hell.

It would be racist regardless of which race the team was named after. It just fucking is. What if they were called the Whiteys, and they had a caricature of a white man for their mascot? THAT'S FUCKING RACIST.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

[Suu]

Sorry, I just laughed my fucking face off at this so hard I snarked water through my nose. 

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Hah. I was just about to link to that. They were big news for a week back home. A direct response to the "Eaton High School Fighting Reds". Weld County, Colorado. A.K.A. Kansas.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Sorry, I just laughed my fucking face off at this so hard I snarked water through my nose. 

I wasn't expecting to find it when I image searched. It's perfect, though.

[Suu]

Having a discussion on FB (ugh) about the Fightin' Irish versus the Orangemen. Same idea.

The NCAA forced Syracuse to drop it to just "The Orange" which is still kind of the same thing, yet nobody seems to bat an eye at Notre Dame. Really? 

[Junkenstein]

[Aucoq]

Every Thang's Gonna Be All White. 

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Having a discussion on FB (ugh) about the Fightin' Irish versus the Orangemen. Same idea.

The NCAA forced Syracuse to drop it to just "The Orange" which is still kind of the same thing, yet nobody seems to bat an eye at Notre Dame. Really?

It's hard to lean on a traditionally Irish Catholic university that want's to call itself the "Fighting Irish". Strange choice, imo, but kind of a different deal than just completely appropriating the imagery of another culture entirely. One is kind of just....really??? The other is getting more into the minstrelsy area.

And I totally had to google orangemen to get the reference there at all. Apparently the NCAA just made them drop the 'men' to get in line with the spirit of Title IX.