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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, July 11, 2014, 02:02:35 AM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on July 13, 2014, 08:54:14 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 08:01:55 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 07:43:19 AM
In other words, if this were anywhere else, like a place of employment, her would have already been fired for a, and now he's done both a and b. Sure, it's an internet forum, not a place of employment, but harassment is harassment.

And who gets to decide when I am being harassed? You? Is it conceivably possible that if I feel harassed I might take it to admins myself? I can use the report post button. I can type the words "hey, this asshole is harassing me, can you delete his post and give him a warning?"

Or am I allowed the agency to go "meh, this guy's meaningless" and blow it off, and others the agency to jump dude's shit verbally for being a jackass, without resorting to admin intervention because some random underdeveloped dipshit was racist on the internet?

How about Gogira, does she get to decide whether she gives a fuck about some two-bit wannabe shock jock?

'Cause I'm gonna be honest here, I don't care, if I did care I could do something about it using my own big-girl typing fingers, and the idea that this kerfuffle is in any way about "defending my honor" is more odious to me than an idiot calling me a nigger.

You can decide all you want for yourself, as can Gogira with all the big girl typing fingers you want. Sorry I found something offensive that you happened to be a part of.

I'm not bothered by you finding it offensive. That's your own call and you have every right to make it. It's the part where you were declaring it harassment. If you feel harassed by it, again, that's your own call to make. But I'm not comfortable with other people deciding whether I'm being harassed, given that it's subjective and my call to make.

To be honest, in your situation I would be insulted that people would think I needed defending against such a DINOSAUR of a troll.

Yeah, no shit. I can't believe some nobody moron typing penny-ante racist epithets managed to generate this much of a stir. WTF.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

Oh god yeah, that too. He's a tool.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


hooplala

Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 13, 2014, 08:54:14 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 08:01:55 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 07:43:19 AM
In other words, if this were anywhere else, like a place of employment, her would have already been fired for a, and now he's done both a and b. Sure, it's an internet forum, not a place of employment, but harassment is harassment.

And who gets to decide when I am being harassed? You? Is it conceivably possible that if I feel harassed I might take it to admins myself? I can use the report post button. I can type the words "hey, this asshole is harassing me, can you delete his post and give him a warning?"

Or am I allowed the agency to go "meh, this guy's meaningless" and blow it off, and others the agency to jump dude's shit verbally for being a jackass, without resorting to admin intervention because some random underdeveloped dipshit was racist on the internet?

How about Gogira, does she get to decide whether she gives a fuck about some two-bit wannabe shock jock?

'Cause I'm gonna be honest here, I don't care, if I did care I could do something about it using my own big-girl typing fingers, and the idea that this kerfuffle is in any way about "defending my honor" is more odious to me than an idiot calling me a nigger.

You can decide all you want for yourself, as can Gogira with all the big girl typing fingers you want. Sorry I found something offensive that you happened to be a part of.

I'm not bothered by you finding it offensive. That's your own call and you have every right to make it. It's the part where you were declaring it harassment. If you feel harassed by it, again, that's your own call to make. But I'm not comfortable with other people deciding whether I'm being harassed, given that it's subjective and my call to make.

To be honest, in your situation I would be insulted that people would think I needed defending against such a DINOSAUR of a troll.

Yeah, no shit. I can't believe some nobody moron typing penny-ante racist epithets managed to generate this much of a stir. WTF.


I think Pent summed it up nicely:

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 12, 2014, 05:43:04 PM
PD.COM: IT'S EASY TO TROLL US BECAUSE WE MOTHERFUCKEN LOVE BEING TROLLED. WE LIVE FOR THIS SHIT. SRSLY. IF HALF AN HOUR GOES BY WITHOUT SOMEONE ATTEMPTING TO TROLL US - WE'LL TROLL OUR FUCKING SELVES JUST TO TAKE THE EDGE OFF THE CRAVINGS!
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Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

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Pope Lecherous PMed me. I have no idea, I think he was trying to be Zen. Something about Jedi.
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Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 06:35:42 AM
He's not even a funny troll, like Delcon. He's just rocking the suburbs, it's all he's got.

Oh, so freedom of speech is FUNNY? That's what it is, just a big joke? I'm sure glad my forefathers died for YOUR basic human rights.

:fap:

Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

FWIW, I did buy the book and while you might not care for Gorightly personally,  the book presents writing from many great original discordians which tends to place the content far above the person in question.  While I'm not defending him as I happen to agree that he came across like a rather big douche in this thread the book isn't really HIS material so much as Thornley, Hill, Wilson, etc...

Just sayin.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Delcon on July 13, 2014, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 06:35:42 AM
He's not even a funny troll, like Delcon. He's just rocking the suburbs, it's all he's got.

Oh, so freedom of speech is FUNNY? That's what it is, just a big joke? I'm sure glad my forefathers died for YOUR basic human rights.

:fap:

:lol:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 13, 2014, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

FWIW, I did buy the book and while you might not care for Gorightly personally,  the book presents writing from many great original discordians which tends to place the content far above the person in question.  While I'm not defending him as I happen to agree that he came across like a rather big douche in this thread the book isn't really HIS material so much as Thornley, Hill, Wilson, etc...

Just sayin.

So he's lining his pockets with other people's writing. Tell me more about why I should give him money.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Bu🤠ns

Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 13, 2014, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

FWIW, I did buy the book and while you might not care for Gorightly personally,  the book presents writing from many great original discordians which tends to place the content far above the person in question.  While I'm not defending him as I happen to agree that he came across like a rather big douche in this thread the book isn't really HIS material so much as Thornley, Hill, Wilson, etc...

Just sayin.

So he's lining his pockets with other people's writing. Tell me more about why I should give him money.

You shouldn't -- I'm not trying to convince anyone.  I only felt compelled to say so out of respect for the founders and that it's the only source of that material I could find. Do what cha like :)

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 13, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 13, 2014, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

FWIW, I did buy the book and while you might not care for Gorightly personally,  the book presents writing from many great original discordians which tends to place the content far above the person in question.  While I'm not defending him as I happen to agree that he came across like a rather big douche in this thread the book isn't really HIS material so much as Thornley, Hill, Wilson, etc...

Just sayin.

So he's lining his pockets with other people's writing. Tell me more about why I should give him money.

You shouldn't -- I'm not trying to convince anyone.  I only felt compelled to say so out of respect for the founders and that it's the only source of that material I could find. Do what cha like :)

Fair enough.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Faust

Quote from: Delcon on July 13, 2014, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 06:35:42 AM
He's not even a funny troll, like Delcon. He's just rocking the suburbs, it's all he's got.

Oh, so freedom of speech is FUNNY? That's what it is, just a big joke? I'm sure glad my forefathers died for YOUR basic human rights.

:fap:
As a european I don't give a tossed salad as to what your forefathers died for.
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East Coast Hustle

Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 07:51:31 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 07:39:37 AM
My two cents, for what they're worth. He should have been banned with calling Nigel a negress. He has now also called Gogira a queer.

PD has always had a pretty narrow band of bannable offenses. If the admins discuss it and decide that they want to amend the rules to make puerile name-calling a bannable offense, that's up to them, but personally I feel like it's simpler to avoid expanding the list of rules and just use our already-available individual powers of not suffering a fool.

This, and I'm more than a little saddened that I had to explain this concept to the very people that instilled it in me in the first place.
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The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

Also this. He was about the only one of the "old school" discordians that I didn't find completely odious, now I'm beginning to think that was just an oversight on my part because seriously, WTF was that shit all about?
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

hooplala

Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 14, 2014, 03:22:31 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't recall name calling or racism being grounds for banning, but maybe I missed something.

However, having said that, the big thing I took away from this thread is that Gorightly is a complete fuckwit, and I'm glad I hadn't already spent money on his book.

Also this. He was about the only one of the "old school" discordians that I didn't find completely odious, now I'm beginning to think that was just an oversight on my part because seriously, WTF was that shit all about?

I think he's angry that Roger (and possibly others) called him on his sexism.  Nice to know pettiness isn't something which fades which age.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on July 13, 2014, 08:01:55 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on July 13, 2014, 07:43:19 AM
In other words, if this were anywhere else, like a place of employment, her would have already been fired for a, and now he's done both a and b. Sure, it's an internet forum, not a place of employment, but harassment is harassment.

And who gets to decide when I am being harassed? You? Is it conceivably possible that if I feel harassed I might take it to admins myself? I can use the report post button. I can type the words "hey, this asshole is harassing me, can you delete his post and give him a warning?"

Or am I allowed the agency to go "meh, this guy's meaningless" and blow it off, and others the agency to jump dude's shit verbally for being a jackass, without resorting to admin intervention because some random underdeveloped dipshit was racist on the internet?

How about Gogira, does she get to decide whether she gives a fuck about some two-bit wannabe shock jock?

'Cause I'm gonna be honest here, I don't care, if I did care I could do something about it using my own big-girl typing fingers, and the idea that this kerfuffle is in any way about "defending my honor" is more odious to me than an idiot calling me a nigger.

You can decide all you want for yourself, as can Gogira with all the big girl typing fingers you want. Sorry I found something offensive that you happened to be a part of.

I'm not bothered by you finding it offensive. That's your own call and you have every right to make it. It's the part where you were declaring it harassment. If you feel harassed by it, again, that's your own call to make. But I'm not comfortable with other people deciding whether I'm being harassed, given that it's subjective and my call to make.

Ok, I see that.
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