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Do you tell others about your philosophy or 'let sleeping dogs lie'?

Started by zackli, July 20, 2014, 10:58:48 PM

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zackli

I can see benefits to both sides... Personally, I don't tell most people as it isn't really a topic that comes up in conversation. I've actually only told one person I know about my personal philosophy, and it's only because she has a very similar philosophy. My inner circle of friends has a pretty limited grasp of my indifference, but that's only because they've known me for years and things sometimes come out inadvertently.

What about you guys? Does your family know? I'm sure it would make for a nice dinner conversation with some more conservative parents.
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Well yeah, what's the point of a philosophy if you don't act on it?
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Quote from: Regret on July 21, 2014, 12:50:11 AM
Well yeah, what's the point of a philosophy if you don't act on it?

I don't know my personal philosophy is rather personal, I mean I know other local Discordians, but with people who are not I don't see much point in repeating the same long drawn out half assed explanation of what My Discordia is all about when half the time they don't understand and half the time they assume I'm messing with them or am in some weird cult.  While I have no problem with what they assume, My Discordia is about my own actions and thoughts and Way, and less about preaching to the uncaring masses.  And I suck at whipping out the Holy(tm).

I do participate in OM:GASMs on occasion though, as that can be a rather effective, fun, and often nicely pre-packaged way to spread the more general Discordia.

That said my gf sees things my way for the most part, and over the years we've pretty much formed Our Discordia as a couple in ways that make sense to us at the time.

My parents?  Ha, even though they are surprisingly liberal, my mom would think I'm in a cult and my dad just wouldn't care.
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Yea, i did try telling my family about this early on. it ended up sounding like i'd gone goth or some other form of paganism. Not really what i had in mind. Nowadays, I only really discuss it with interested friends who enjoy discussing these kinds of ideas. I dont really tell anyone i dont already know that i'm a discordian. I mean what's the point of telling people "what a discordian is" when my definition only applies to me? To be honest though, i still pull the old pope card nonsense when i feel like  invoking a certain level of awe. :P
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Haha yes I totally do the Pope thing some times.

Or the "My religion forbids me to just let that idiotic statement go...".

In fact, one of my favorite uses of Discordia is to twist it into "My Religion mandates that..." followed by something so absurd that even a gullible child would find hard to swallow.  My latest schtick is "I'm sorry AT&T U-VERSE door-to-door salesman, I am a devout follower of the Goddess, Eris, and the strict commandments of my religion forbid me from switching internet suppliers when I don't really want to, and further forbids me from having to bother explaining to you why." and closing the door.

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Okay, okay.  So I have been trying to communicate my thinking to others for the past decade, and transmission rates still hover around nought.  Mostly, I find people intentionally equivocate and confuse the point because there's nothing they don't already care to know.  The worst is when they get combative

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Quote from: Pæs on July 27, 2014, 11:29:29 PM
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Quote from: zackli on July 20, 2014, 10:58:48 PM
I can see benefits to both sides... Personally, I don't tell most people as it isn't really a topic that comes up in conversation. I've actually only told one person I know about my personal philosophy, and it's only because she has a very similar philosophy. My inner circle of friends has a pretty limited grasp of my indifference, but that's only because they've known me for years and things sometimes come out inadvertently.

What about you guys? Does your family know? I'm sure it would make for a nice dinner conversation with some more conservative parents.

"Telling" people about your philosophy is pointless.  You might as well dance your sculpture.  You might as well sing your cooking.

The simple best advice for writing also applies to philosophy: show, don't tell.

Live your philosophy.  Be your philosophy.

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Quote from: Hoopla on July 28, 2014, 02:10:04 PM
Quote from: zackli on July 20, 2014, 10:58:48 PM
I can see benefits to both sides... Personally, I don't tell most people as it isn't really a topic that comes up in conversation. I've actually only told one person I know about my personal philosophy, and it's only because she has a very similar philosophy. My inner circle of friends has a pretty limited grasp of my indifference, but that's only because they've known me for years and things sometimes come out inadvertently.

What about you guys? Does your family know? I'm sure it would make for a nice dinner conversation with some more conservative parents.

"Telling" people about your philosophy is pointless.  You might as well dance your sculpture.  You might as well sing your cooking.

The simple best advice for writing also applies to philosophy: show, don't tell.

Live your philosophy.  Be your philosophy.

If they are receptive, by your own actions, they will learn.

I agree wholeheartedly, given that my personal philosophy is entirely based on ridiculing other people's.

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Hey, i'm curious does anyone else dabble in chaos magic? I've only read sigil magic seminar, and i've played around with it a bit. If nothing else, i find it helps ease anxiety. Like, if i'm worrying too much about something out of my control, i can fire a sigil so at least i can tell the doubts in my head that i "did" something about it.
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Quote from: Chelagoras The Lust-Driven Dickwolf on July 29, 2014, 10:55:41 PM
Hey, i'm curious does anyone else dabble in chaos magic? I've only read sigil magic seminar, and i've played around with it a bit. If nothing else, i find it helps ease anxiety. Like, if i'm worrying too much about something out of my control, i can fire a sigil so at least i can tell the doubts in my head that i "did" something about it.

I've read a lot about it. Occultism is one of my favorite things to read about, but I've never tried any actual practices.  It seems to me that a significant portion of it is simply the placebo effect, and the other significant portion of it is inflating your stories to sound like you've achieved greatness.

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IIRC, there are quite a few threads RE: chaos magic. Much pointing and laughing. It used to be One Of Those Topics.
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