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Unlimited Ferguson Thread of police state nightmare fuel.

Started by Da6s, August 14, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Malcolm on August 26, 2014, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: N E T on August 26, 2014, 10:02:18 PM
We're all fake discordians here.

No, you're not. You're the usual suspects. I apologize for assuming you were exactly what I hoped you weren't.

<--- Door's over there, assclown.  We're not the sooper ancient mystics you were expecting, and you're not the human being we were hoping for.  Ta ta.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Raz Tech

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2014, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: Malcolm on August 26, 2014, 10:22:39 PM
Quote from: Alty on August 26, 2014, 10:11:30 PM
We are the sort of Discordians that think that if cops wantonly kill whomever they please with no consequences they might, one day very soon, do so to any of us at any point.

Which, I guess, is what is happening.

I agree, so why is this instance so important? Why this one? This type of thing has been happening my whole life. Is this the straw? I doubt it. People will forget this in a few weeks and nothing will change.

It isn't.  Michael Brown was just another biological unit, meant nothing, just as you and I mean nothing.  Nothing means anything, nobody counts, life is a rather nasty chemical burp, etc, etc.

Like I said:  Nihilism.  You have no sense of outrage.  You may as well say "fuck it" and drink shitty beer and watch NASCAR.  Because you know those faceless masses out there?  The vast collection of Honey Boo Boos and teabagger yahoos that everyone likes to make fun of?

You just proclaimed your membership in their tribe.

Woah woah woah.  You say what you want about nihilism and NASCAR, but leave shitty beer out of this.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Raz Tech on August 26, 2014, 11:53:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2014, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: Malcolm on August 26, 2014, 10:22:39 PM
Quote from: Alty on August 26, 2014, 10:11:30 PM
We are the sort of Discordians that think that if cops wantonly kill whomever they please with no consequences they might, one day very soon, do so to any of us at any point.

Which, I guess, is what is happening.

I agree, so why is this instance so important? Why this one? This type of thing has been happening my whole life. Is this the straw? I doubt it. People will forget this in a few weeks and nothing will change.

It isn't.  Michael Brown was just another biological unit, meant nothing, just as you and I mean nothing.  Nothing means anything, nobody counts, life is a rather nasty chemical burp, etc, etc.

Like I said:  Nihilism.  You have no sense of outrage.  You may as well say "fuck it" and drink shitty beer and watch NASCAR.  Because you know those faceless masses out there?  The vast collection of Honey Boo Boos and teabagger yahoos that everyone likes to make fun of?

You just proclaimed your membership in their tribe.

Woah woah woah.  You say what you want about nihilism and NASCAR, but leave shitty beer out of this.

Nihilism makes sense if you live in a post-apocalypse wasteland.

There is no excuse for shitty beer.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Malcolm


Salty


Quote from: Malcolm on August 27, 2014, 12:18:58 AM
How have you been, little billy?

CALLED IT.

Quote from: Alty on August 26, 2014, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: Malcolm on August 26, 2014, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: N E T on August 26, 2014, 10:02:18 PM
We're all fake discordians here.

No, you're not. You're the usual suspects. I apologize for assuming you were exactly what I hoped you weren't.

Now THERE'S a familiar tune.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Alty on August 27, 2014, 12:20:40 AM

Quote from: Malcolm on August 27, 2014, 12:18:58 AM
How have you been, little billy?

CALLED IT.
.

Oh, yeah, Malcolm is from Mysticwicks, he's never pretended differently.  I was Little Billy there.

But I don't remember him being like this.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Malcolm

Eh, drinkin beers. Got bored wondered what the discordians were on about these days. Missed you a bit. Nostalgia and all.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Malcolm on August 27, 2014, 12:25:38 AM
Eh, drinkin beers. Got bored wondered what the discordians were on about these days. Missed you a bit. Nostalgia and all.

Well, we sorta went the way of MW, as all forums eventually do.  Everyone gets sick of everyone's face, huge fights, all that shit.

But ECH never shamed himself like Mol did, which is something.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Malcolm

Mol, last thing I read by him was some kind if apology attempting to justify scotch, flashing kids and something about polyamory. Cause y'know...Crowley or something.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Malcolm on August 26, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: Alty on August 26, 2014, 10:44:02 PM
All I know is I keep trying to do all kinds of shit that no sensible person would do, given the odds.

That makes sense.

Oh, and fuck you jokenstein. I'll keep asking questions. Dickbag.

Junkenstein is right, and you are a shitfence. The end.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Junkenstein

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

Quote from: Malcolm on August 26, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Ya, the police fucked up. Oops. So what. Sorry about your bad luck, I guess.

Quote from: http://weeklysift.com/2014/08/25/what-your-fox-watching-uncle-doesnt-get-about-ferguson/But there has been a much more subtle, harder-to-compensate-for difference in the way each network answers the fundamental question: What are the demonstrations in Ferguson all about?

On Fox, the answer to that question is very simple. Demonstrators in Ferguson are reacting angrily to a single, one-of-a-kind event: White police officer Darren Wilson shot and killed an unarmed black 18-year-old, Michael Brown. That restricted context drives the rest of their narrative.

[...]

Slate's Jamelle Bouie did what Fox reporters (or most individual whites) hardly ever do: ask the black community what they're concerned about and listen to their answers.

QuoteTalk to anyone in Ferguson and you'll hear a story about the police. ... Everyone—or at least, every black person—can recall an incident. Everyone can attest to friends and relatives who have been harassed, assaulted, or worse by the police.

The right story begins here: A majority-black community feels abused by its almost entirely white police force. [2] And complaining to the white-dominated local government does no good. (As a report from Arch City Defenders spells out, the town of Ferguson gets significant revenue from assessing fines against poor people.)

If you start there, the narrative takes a completely different path. When a policeman shot Michael Brown six times on a city street in broad daylight in front of witnesses, the Ferguson community was not shocked (the way I would be if one of my white friends were gunned down by police in my majority-white town). Quite the opposite, this was the kind of incident they found all too believable, given the police behavior they see all the time.

So the reaction we've been seeing on the streets isn't "OMG! How can something like this happen?", it's "This shit has to stop."

But I see Malcom is now 3edgy5me, so I mostly posted that for the interest of the rest of the board.

Junkenstein

Damn, that's a good article. Excellent links thoughout.

I'd like to express surprise at this:

QuoteIf I did find myself in an unexpected and unpleasant run-in with police, it would feel like snow in July. My instinct would be to wait it out until polite normality re-asserted itself. So I could easily follow the advice of LAPD's Sunil Dutta:

"if you don't want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don't argue with me, don't call me names, don't tell me that I can't stop you, don't say I'm a racist pig, don't threaten that you'll sue me and take away my badge. Don't scream at me that you pay my salary, and don't even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long? ... Save your anger for later, and channel it appropriately. Do what the officer tells you to and it will end safely for both of you. We have a justice system in which you are presumed innocent; if a cop can do his or her job unmolested, that system can run its course. Later, you can ask for a supervisor, lodge a complaint or contact civil rights organizations if you believe your rights were violated. Feel free to sue the police! Just don't challenge a cop during a stop". [3]

But it would be a huge lie. One thing I'm sure of, this guy should not be in any kind of position of power.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

LMNO