A Thwid, gá dom a fhios conas a rá "cait" as Gaeilge

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I mean, infinity divided by any number is still infinity,

L'Hospital begs to differ.

[Doktor Howl]

I mean, infinity divided by any number is still infinity,

L'Hospital begs to differ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27H%C3%B4pital%27s_rule

Everything they ever taught you in high school was a lie. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I mean, infinity divided by any number is still infinity,

L'Hospital begs to differ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27H%C3%B4pital%27s_rule

Everything they ever taught you in high school was a lie.

I don't even understand it. Which is probably just as well.

[Doktor Howl]

It basically means you can divide by zero and not get infinity, and multiply by infinity and not get infinity.

And vice-versa.  In limited cases.

Calc III ruined my life.  Nothing means anything, and we're just a large vacuum burp.  So I quit and found something to do that was full of seedy, sordid shit that doesn't challenge my basic perception of the universe.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It basically means you can divide by zero and not get infinity, and multiply by infinity and not get infinity.

And vice-versa.  In limited cases.

Calc III ruined my life.  Nothing means anything, and we're just a large vacuum burp.  So I quit and found something to do that was full of seedy, sordid shit that doesn't challenge my basic perception of the universe.

It's probably good that I didn't go down the calculus rabbit-hole, I would have gotten stuck there and never come back out to do biology.

[Doktor Howl]

It basically means you can divide by zero and not get infinity, and multiply by infinity and not get infinity.

And vice-versa.  In limited cases.

Calc III ruined my life.  Nothing means anything, and we're just a large vacuum burp.  So I quit and found something to do that was full of seedy, sordid shit that doesn't challenge my basic perception of the universe.

It's probably good that I didn't go down the calculus rabbit-hole, I would have gotten stuck there and never come back out to do biology.

Yeah, it's like the pots drug.  It promises you the secrets of the universe, and then you wake up crusted in your own filth with a Taylor Polynomial still stuck in your arm.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It basically means you can divide by zero and not get infinity, and multiply by infinity and not get infinity.

And vice-versa.  In limited cases.

Calc III ruined my life.  Nothing means anything, and we're just a large vacuum burp.  So I quit and found something to do that was full of seedy, sordid shit that doesn't challenge my basic perception of the universe.

It's probably good that I didn't go down the calculus rabbit-hole, I would have gotten stuck there and never come back out to do biology.

Yeah, it's like the pots drug.  It promises you the secrets of the universe, and then you wake up crusted in your own filth with a Taylor Polynomial still stuck in your arm.

[Reginald Ret]

I mean, infinity divided by any number is still infinity, so it seems like mathematically nothing changes except the parameters in which infinity is contained. It's sort of like an asymptote; the line can get closer to the asymptote forever without ever reaching zero. So the mathematical probability wouldn't change at all; only the quadrant in which you would find that probability.

Huh, I was thinking more of the potential chemical applications.
This may open up all new electron configurations in atoms, allowing currently impossible molecules to be created.
I'm dubious about finding stable configurations though, that may just be impossible.



(Not really, sadly)

I don't understand how, and though while granted I haven't taken all that much chemistry, I do think I've taken enough to have a decent grasp on fundamental electron behavior. Can you explain how you think that might work?

I was thinking of excluding certain electron orbitals, though now that I think about it it would just be another way to ionize something because the moment you stop excluding, the norm steps back in. alternative stable configurations are impossible by definition.

[LMNO]

I was thinking of the old addage "it all adds up to normal".  Every new, weird, non-intuitive thing we find doesn't necessarily mean we have to rethink everything, because that weird, non-intuitive thing was already there before we came across it.  Which means, essentially, nothing really changes just because we know this now.

I mean, it's still fascinating, and we might be able to tie a few more facts together, but we don't really need to come up with a new cosmology or reality grid. 

My "adding zero" comment was alluding to math equations that can be solved by adding a zero to the equation, or multiplying by one.  You're not changing the answer, and you're not really changing the question, you're just making it a bit easier to figure out.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I was thinking of the old addage "it all adds up to normal".  Every new, weird, non-intuitive thing we find doesn't necessarily mean we have to rethink everything, because that weird, non-intuitive thing was already there before we came across it.  Which means, essentially, nothing really changes just because we know this now.

I mean, it's still fascinating, and we might be able to tie a few more facts together, but we don't really need to come up with a new cosmology or reality grid. 

My "adding zero" comment was alluding to math equations that can be solved by adding a zero to the equation, or multiplying by one.  You're not changing the answer, and you're not really changing the question, you're just making it a bit easier to figure out.

Oh, like adding zeros to both sides and then dividing? True.

And yeah, what this does for us isn't change anything about reality, but rather, get us incrementally closer to understanding what the hell the deal with electrons is.

I find them fascinating.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

WHAT THE HELL

IS THE DEAL

WITH ELECTRONS???

[LMNO]

Have you heard the one about "it's all the same electron"?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Have you heard the one about "it's all the same electron"?

Yeah, that's a good one! Feynman was a funny guy. I have the full set of his lecture recordings.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Great for road trips fwiw

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

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