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Started by notloki, October 17, 2014, 01:54:16 AM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Can I just say that I think that 99% of pinealists completely misunderstand pinealism, if we are referring to the biological function of the pineal gland? It regulates sleep and wake cycles, and one might reasonably interpret pinealism not as being some off-the-wall absurdity or meaningless bullshit, but accessing the dreamlike amorphous state in which non-linear-logic connections can be made.

On other words, tapping not into the ridiculous, but into a state of intuitive inspiration, much like the dream that inspired Otto Loewi to discover the existence of the chemical neurotransmitter acetylcholine.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

But fuck being all philosophical about it, the run-of-the-mill Facebook Discordian just wants to use Discordianism as an excuse to be rAnDoM and sociopathic.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


notloki

Quote from: Your Mom on October 18, 2014, 05:30:39 PM
Can I just say that I think that 99% of pinealists completely misunderstand pinealism, if we are referring to the biological function of the pineal gland? It regulates sleep and wake cycles, and one might reasonably interpret pinealism not as being some off-the-wall absurdity or meaningless bullshit, but accessing the dreamlike amorphous state in which non-linear-logic connections can be made.

On other words, tapping not into the ridiculous, but into a state of intuitive inspiration, much like the dream that inspired Otto Loewi to discover the existence of the chemical neurotransmitter acetylcholine.

I like your take.  I mean it more the PD describe.  I use it mean `silly'.  Absurd so so but silly supposed to be fun or funny.  Like pun at right moment.  Like dance around like loon.

I like how your take is based on the biological function of the pineal gland.  That is a good reality tunnel too.  I can never control that state. :(  It just happen or it does not.

Good post!

Your friend,
notloki

notloki

Quote from: Your Mom on October 18, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
But fuck being all philosophical about it, the run-of-the-mill Facebook Discordian just wants to use Discordianism as an excuse to be rAnDoM and sociopathic.

Yes.  Even if PD was only define of Pineal they seem to miss the point.

PD was funny.  It old now for old timers but funny.  `rAnDoM' to random is not fun for reader and not funny either.  Just dumb.

But merit still in PD idea of silly I think.  Giggle at life makes life better.  It healthy and fun and feel good.  Deep humor great too but silly kick ego in balls/vag and ego need that sometime.

hooplala

Quote from: notloki on October 18, 2014, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on October 18, 2014, 05:30:39 PM
Can I just say that I think that 99% of pinealists completely misunderstand pinealism, if we are referring to the biological function of the pineal gland? It regulates sleep and wake cycles, and one might reasonably interpret pinealism not as being some off-the-wall absurdity or meaningless bullshit, but accessing the dreamlike amorphous state in which non-linear-logic connections can be made.

On other words, tapping not into the ridiculous, but into a state of intuitive inspiration, much like the dream that inspired Otto Loewi to discover the existence of the chemical neurotransmitter acetylcholine.

I like your take.  I mean it more the PD describe.  I use it mean `silly'.  Absurd so so but silly supposed to be fun or funny.  Like pun at right moment.  Like dance around like loon.

I like how your take is based on the biological function of the pineal gland.  That is a good reality tunnel too.  I can never control that state. :(  It just happen or it does not.

Good post!

Your friend,
notloki

I think the PD uses the pineal gland in Descartes' sense of the third eye. What gave him that concept, I have no idea.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

notloki

#35
Yes going through PD again I see it like that.  It changes meaning of much to interpret the way you two do.  Eris consulted in pineal gland.  It work well with my interpret of rest of the PD.

Thank both of you.  It like seeing black hearts and red spades in the PD.

Your friend,
notloki

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: notloki on October 18, 2014, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on October 18, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
But fuck being all philosophical about it, the run-of-the-mill Facebook Discordian just wants to use Discordianism as an excuse to be rAnDoM and sociopathic.

Yes.  Even if PD was only define of Pineal they seem to miss the point.

PD was funny.  It old now for old timers but funny.  `rAnDoM' to random is not fun for reader and not funny either.  Just dumb.

But merit still in PD idea of silly I think.  Giggle at life makes life better.  It healthy and fun and feel good.  Deep humor great too but silly kick ego in balls/vag and ego need that sometime.

Yes, I think that absurdity and silliness hold value, especially when they can surprise us and make us look at things with refreshed eyes.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on October 18, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: notloki on October 18, 2014, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on October 18, 2014, 05:30:39 PM
Can I just say that I think that 99% of pinealists completely misunderstand pinealism, if we are referring to the biological function of the pineal gland? It regulates sleep and wake cycles, and one might reasonably interpret pinealism not as being some off-the-wall absurdity or meaningless bullshit, but accessing the dreamlike amorphous state in which non-linear-logic connections can be made.

On other words, tapping not into the ridiculous, but into a state of intuitive inspiration, much like the dream that inspired Otto Loewi to discover the existence of the chemical neurotransmitter acetylcholine.

I like your take.  I mean it more the PD describe.  I use it mean `silly'.  Absurd so so but silly supposed to be fun or funny.  Like pun at right moment.  Like dance around like loon.

I like how your take is based on the biological function of the pineal gland.  That is a good reality tunnel too.  I can never control that state. :(  It just happen or it does not.

Good post!

Your friend,
notloki

I think the PD uses the pineal gland in Descartes' sense of the third eye. What gave him that concept, I have no idea.

Well, there's some irony there. By the time the PD was written it was established that the pineal gland releases melatonin and was significantly involved in weight regulation... I don't know whether they had yet figured out the link between melatonin release and sleep cycles.

But where it gets interesting, of course, is the fact that the pineal gland kind of IS a third eye, in a sense, in that they also have photoreceptors.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11962759
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."