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[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So he wants to work in Nuclear Energy but hes deeply concerned about the environmental impact of wind farms? Wow.

Oh, yes. Yes. It's marvelous. He is convinced that nuclear IS THE ANSWER and that we are all stupid for failing to realize this. Because it is actually very very safe, under normal circumstances (ie. as long as everything goes right, which makes as much logical sense as saying that bears are very very safe except for when they aren't).

Or, as long as people like him aren't at the wheel.

And as long as there isn't a natural disaster of unforeseen magnitude. And as long as humans don't make errors. Because those never happen.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nuclear power really is by and large very safe, except for when it rarely isn't, which is rare but potentially catastrophic, and except for the generation of waste that we haven't figured out what to do with.

[hooplala]

Yeah, all that. I never understood why the 911 hijackers bothered with the World Trade Center (other than as a symbol), when they could have flown some planes into nuclear power plants.

Or would that have even worked?

[Cain]

Who knows.  The nuclear industry says reactors are so heavily fortified that flying a plane into them would not breach them...but the nuclear industry says a lot of stupid, unreliable and flat out wrong shit.

I doubt any government has carried out tests to check, either.  Energy industry = all rules waivered, especially an energy industry with such national security implications as nuclear power.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Who knows.  The nuclear industry says reactors are so heavily fortified that flying a plane into them would not breach them...but the nuclear industry says a lot of stupid, unreliable and flat out wrong shit.

I doubt any government has carried out tests to check, either.  Energy industry = all rules waivered, especially an energy industry with such national security implications as nuclear power.

Pretty much.

Meanwhile all but one of the nuclear plants in Oregon and Washington have had to be decommissioned (or never made it into production) because of shoddy, corner-cutting construction, which doesn't instill a whole lot of trust. Also calling them things like "Trojan" and "WPPS" seemed like maybe they weren't seeking public confidence in the first place.

[Ben Shapiro]

Yeah, I'm getting kinda (read: extremely) worried by contemporary liberalism's punishment fetish.  Of course, this could be because contemporary liberalism is dominated by upper class dweebs who have never seen the results of the carceral state in full swing or how the power of the state falls disproportionately on the poor, on ethnic minorities and on alternative sexualities. 

Throw in the dangerous attitudes towards free speech which have been made abundantly clear in the past few days, the complete inability to argue positions on their merits (instead relying on mockery, online mobs and character assassination), the insular tree club mentality of upper class brats, the reduction of liberalism from political ideology to social mores and the unabashed worship of state power so long as it is directed at the "right" people (suspected rapists, paedophiles, PUA douchebags, "hate preachers") or at the very least controlled by the right people (Obama drone striking the shit out of 8 different countries at once is pretty cool), and I'm this close to calling it a day for liberalism entirely.

I mean, either you believe in unalieable rights (which don't necessarily and, IMO, shouldn't be considered "natural rights") and aiding the weakest and most vulnerable in society, or you don't.  And I'm increasingly getting the impression that modern liberalism dont.

Well most liberals fit the RWHN type. Very few liberals that don't want to shit on the poor, and let other be happy are hard to find since most of those moved on to the socialist party.

[Ben Shapiro]

So he wants to work in Nuclear Energy but hes deeply concerned about the environmental impact of wind farms? Wow.

Oh, yes. Yes. It's marvelous. He is convinced that nuclear IS THE ANSWER and that we are all stupid for failing to realize this. Because it is actually very very safe, under normal circumstances (ie. as long as everything goes right, which makes as much logical sense as saying that bears are very very safe except for when they aren't).

Depends on the number of Jewcats around.

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Yeah, I'm getting kinda (read: extremely) worried by contemporary liberalism's punishment fetish.  Of course, this could be because contemporary liberalism is dominated by upper class dweebs who have never seen the results of the carceral state in full swing or how the power of the state falls disproportionately on the poor, on ethnic minorities and on alternative sexualities. 

Throw in the dangerous attitudes towards free speech which have been made abundantly clear in the past few days, the complete inability to argue positions on their merits (instead relying on mockery, online mobs and character assassination), the insular tree club mentality of upper class brats, the reduction of liberalism from political ideology to social mores and the unabashed worship of state power so long as it is directed at the "right" people (suspected rapists, paedophiles, PUA douchebags, "hate preachers") or at the very least controlled by the right people (Obama drone striking the shit out of 8 different countries at once is pretty cool), and I'm this close to calling it a day for liberalism entirely.

I mean, either you believe in unalieable rights (which don't necessarily and, IMO, shouldn't be considered "natural rights") and aiding the weakest and most vulnerable in society, or you don't.  And I'm increasingly getting the impression that modern liberalism dont.

Well said.

[The Wizard Joseph]

So the first news blurb on the ticker today was this

TESTEMONAIL:  Right and Discordianism allows room for personal interpretation. You have your theories and I have mine. Unlike Christianity, Discordia allows room for ideas and opinions, and mine is well-informed and based on ancient philosophy and theology, so, my neo-Discordian friends, open your minds to my interpretation and I will open my mind to yours. That's fair enough, right? Just claiming to be discordian should mean that your mind is open and willing to learn and share ideas. You guys are fucking bashing me and your laughing at my theologies and my friends know what's up and are laughing at you and honestly this is my last shot at putting a label on my belief structure and your making me lose all hope of ever finding a ideological group I can relate to because you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about and everything I have said is based on the founding principals of real Discordianism. Expand your mind. 

You guys have been busy! 

[The Wizard Joseph]

I sometimes wonder if the future galactic archeologists that find earth will also wonder if we really knew what we were doing. Like in every galaxy there's always THAT species... and it happens to be us.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I sometimes wonder if the future galactic archeologists that find earth will also wonder if we really knew what we were doing. Like in every galaxy there's always THAT species... and it happens to be us.

[Doktor Howl]

So he wants to work in Nuclear Energy but hes deeply concerned about the environmental impact of wind farms? Wow.

Oh, yes. Yes. It's marvelous. He is convinced that nuclear IS THE ANSWER and that we are all stupid for failing to realize this. Because it is actually very very safe, under normal circumstances (ie. as long as everything goes right, which makes as much logical sense as saying that bears are very very safe except for when they aren't).

Or, as long as people like him aren't at the wheel.

And as long as there isn't a natural disaster of unforeseen magnitude. And as long as humans don't make errors. Because those never happen.

Modern pebble bed reactors are very safe.

But that would involve shutting down ancient plants and spending money on the new technology.

[Doktor Howl]

I sometimes wonder if the future galactic archeologists that find earth will also wonder if we really knew what we were doing. Like in every galaxy there's always THAT species... and it happens to be us.

If you're in a poker game and you can't spot the sucker...

[Doktor Howl]

Well most liberals fit the RWHN type.

I suppose, if you're getting your data from reactionaries.

[Doktor Howl]

Yeah, all that. I never understood why the 911 hijackers bothered with the World Trade Center (other than as a symbol), when they could have flown some planes into nuclear power plants.

Or would that have even worked?

I'd have dropped them on Westlake, Louisiana.  You'd lose half the state, what with refineries and pyrophoric plants.

But that's not the point.  The point of terrorist attacks are "symbolic" (ie, attention-whore) targets.

Next place will be Disneyland.  Mark my words.