Army Time

[rong]

i stand corrected.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Shiiiit. That gives me the chills.

I really hope that somehow we can figure out a way to not go down like that.

Thing is, we're doing it with 6400 nuclear devices preventing the allies from saving the day.

The analogy isn't accurate, really.  There is no historical analogy for this at all.  The only country that could take us down (Russia) could only do so by ending all life on Earth.

What about China?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Shiiiit. That gives me the chills.

I really hope that somehow we can figure out a way to not go down like that.

Thing is, we're doing it with 6400 nuclear devices preventing the allies from saving the day.

The analogy isn't accurate, really.  There is no historical analogy for this at all.  The only country that could take us down (Russia) could only do so by ending all life on Earth.

In the meantime, we have quietly slipped past the climate change tipping point, and it's not news at all.

The scariest thing isn't the drought, the rising sea levels, or the desertification, even though the great migration is starting and Californians are streaming North into my state and agriculture is seriously threatened. The scariest thing, that which is least-attended-to, is the acidification of the oceans and the die-off of shellfish and other calcium-dependent organisms

Shellfish are waaaaaay down there on the food chain. Not as basic as algae, because they feed on algae.

Let that sink in, maybe?

[Doktor Howl]

Shiiiit. That gives me the chills.

I really hope that somehow we can figure out a way to not go down like that.

Thing is, we're doing it with 6400 nuclear devices preventing the allies from saving the day.

The analogy isn't accurate, really.  There is no historical analogy for this at all.  The only country that could take us down (Russia) could only do so by ending all life on Earth.

What about China?

China is not a credible threat, ICBM-wise.  They could hit us - if everything goes right - 8 times.

Russia can hit us about 7000 times (down from an all-time high of 11,400 times).

[Doktor Howl]

Shiiiit. That gives me the chills.

I really hope that somehow we can figure out a way to not go down like that.

Thing is, we're doing it with 6400 nuclear devices preventing the allies from saving the day.

The analogy isn't accurate, really.  There is no historical analogy for this at all.  The only country that could take us down (Russia) could only do so by ending all life on Earth.

In the meantime, we have quietly slipped past the climate change tipping point, and it's not news at all.

The scariest thing isn't the drought, the rising sea levels, or the desertification, even though the great migration is starting and Californians are streaming North into my state and agriculture is seriously threatened. The scariest thing, that which is least-attended-to, is the acidification of the oceans and the die-off of shellfish and other calcium-dependent organisms

Shellfish are waaaaaay down there on the food chain. Not as basic as algae, because they feed on algae.

Let that sink in, maybe?

All hail King Jellyfish.   

[Doktor Howl]

i stand corrected.

What you might have seen is a cold-weather outer cover for a sleeping bag.  Think of it as a liner, but on the outside.

The cross implies that it was Swiss in origin.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Shiiiit. That gives me the chills.

I really hope that somehow we can figure out a way to not go down like that.

Thing is, we're doing it with 6400 nuclear devices preventing the allies from saving the day.

The analogy isn't accurate, really.  There is no historical analogy for this at all.  The only country that could take us down (Russia) could only do so by ending all life on Earth.

What about China?

China is not a credible threat, ICBM-wise.  They could hit us - if everything goes right - 8 times.

Russia can hit us about 7000 times (down from an all-time high of 11,400 times).

I was under the impression that China had a lot more than that.

[Doktor Howl]

Shiiiit. That gives me the chills.

I really hope that somehow we can figure out a way to not go down like that.

Thing is, we're doing it with 6400 nuclear devices preventing the allies from saving the day.

The analogy isn't accurate, really.  There is no historical analogy for this at all.  The only country that could take us down (Russia) could only do so by ending all life on Earth.

What about China?

China is not a credible threat, ICBM-wise.  They could hit us - if everything goes right - 8 times.

Russia can hit us about 7000 times (down from an all-time high of 11,400 times).

I was under the impression that China had a lot more than that.

They do.  Short and medium range missiles that could give us a bad time in Japan and Korea.  But ICBMs?  Not so much.

Now, they are capable of making a space shot, as they've proven, so the tech isn't out of their reach, but they have to build them, and that takes money.  Lots and lots of money, and the maintenance cost of an ICBM is about the cost to replace it every 5-6 years.

So why would they bother, when they basically just owned our currency instead?

[Cain]

I think according to the latest significant military assessments it's more like 44-50 (IISS and DIA 2010 reports on Chinese military power), but point still stands.

China also claims it has the smallest arsenal out of the 5 "allowed" nuclear powers, though most suspect it has a few more than UK's 200, though not a significant number (FAS puts their estimate at 240).

[Doktor Howl]

I think according to the latest significant military assessments it's more like 44-50 (IISS and DIA 2010 reports on Chinese military power), but point still stands.

China also claims it has the smallest arsenal out of the 5 "allowed" nuclear powers, though most suspect it has a few more than UK's 200, though not a significant number (FAS puts their estimate at 240).

I defer to your expertise.  I am apparently behind the times. 

And you know, if they can hit anywhere in the states, they can do us in as a political or national entity with three lousy bombs.  Denver, Galveston, and Gary.

[Doktor Howl]

Also, how is a country "allowed"?

Once they have nukes, it's kind of hard to make them dismantle them.

[Cain]

Under the Non-Proliferation Treaty, I mean.

Fortunately China seems to embrace a no first strike policy, too. 

[Don Coyote]

Army Time

Army Time is Sideways Time
It is time bent folded compressed
Stored slammed shoved into
Green canvas bags

Army time is hook and loop
Frayed, barely serving its functions
Abused, over-used long past its prime

Army time is tan briefs
No one wants them
Everyone gets them
They fall apart before their time
Caked with sweat and piss and shit
Stained with semen and blood

Army time is Sideways time
Compressed until it cracks and oozes
Spreading everywhere uselessly
Compressed until one hour is one day
One becomes two
Two become more
Units become meaningless

Army time builds up
Trapped in your guts
Compacted, impacted

Army time wants to be your time
It wants you to want it

Army time hitches a ride home
Coiled in your bowels
Like a dragon in an epic

Army time makes you suffer
Sometimes silently
Sometimes with sound and fury
Signifying nothing but also something

Army time
It stinks

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